Some people are giving Deeproot a lot more credit than they deserve, since the haven't come anywhere close to keeping a single promise they have made yet. But the do seem to have the time to manage to talk a lot of shit on successful companies like Stern. There are lot of things Stern can do better, but why bother when you are already printing money and their competitors continually shoot themselves in the foot? Quite a few route operators have pulled Oktoberfest off route due to the ramp shot and poor overall reliability.

They didn't really expand the plant in York at the end of it all. They built a new plant next to the old one to build the V-Rod back in the early 2000's, then used that as a bargaining chip against the plant in KC. Then they tore the old York plant down and shipped jobs to KC to beat down the union in PA. Now they beat down the union at the KC plant and added a bunch more "casuals" to York.