IMHO these statements often come from close minded brand loyal pinheads. The Sterns I have experience with need less work than any of the older B/W ones. Im not sure when some will give up the hating and just have fun flippin. I dont hate all Williams just becauese I dont care for a number of em. I guess to each their own. Hope it finds a good new home and you find another you love.

(Moved from 'all pinball' to 'Stern pinball' sub forum)

Just sharing my take on it that doesn't make it so. Its just how I view many similar statements regarding Sterns. I mean close mined in the sense that some do not approach playing certain pins with an open mind. I could care less about the brand name on the pin myself but it seems important to others and that is okay. As always to each their own.

I definitely think its a bummer that he does not care for it. I don't think it will be too tough to sell or at least I hope not.

I am sure there were some AFM, MB, & TOM that had issues out of the box come on Rob it's pinball to claim otherwise just because yours were okay is a bit short sighted. Many had SM and LOTR that didn't have the issues you describe. Does that mean none of em had issues? Of course not. Same with the old pins man.

I agree quality control should be very tight on these new expensive machines. What gets frustrating is when pinheads swear Bally/Williams never had any flaws whatsoever or needed any adjustments that is crazy to me.