Been a while since I purachased nib. What are street prices for pros and premiums from stern now?

My quote for an Iron Maiden Premium was 7300 with free shipping......and this is from a distributor I’ve purchased 7 NIB titles from and 2 NIB titles in the last 2 weeks.

I’m guessing what you’re saying is truth, gone are the days of saving a s*** load from a distro you’ve bought from a ton.

Unless you go in on a group buy and buy 6 or 7 games, you might get a better price then.

So, a premium Iron Maiden is $7300 bucks out the door for everybody in the known universe no matter who you are?

Nah, I bet Gary Stern's kid's can get a better price.

No.

But Stern has tightened up the slack by doing what they did.

VERY SLIGHTLY better deals are out there. The slack has definitely been pulled up.

$50

$100-$150ish. Really not worth the time to haggle out or find unless you already have the deal.

Sweet baby Heyzeus. so does that mean distributors are paying a thousand bucks more than a few years ago?

They are trying to eliminate grey market imports which traditionally have made up an increasingly large percentage of new Stern sales down here in Australia.

There is no street price on a new machine from the official local distro down here. You pay retail MSRP or you import your own.

No doubt the local distro has been in Gary's ear to make it more "not economically viable".

Wasn't 7300 allready premium price for the last few releases?

Wait. Premim street prices are now $7.3?

Weren’t they just 6.7 four months ago??

Ride the high. Make the money while the margin is available, because if we catch an economic downturn, it won't be easy to move games at that price.

If people keep paying, Stern, JJP, and Spooky will keep bumping the cost.

I think the last time they were that were before the lcd? So gb was the last to be around 6700-6800. I believe starting with bat66 and aerosmith they were around 7300 street price with pros being 5200-5400 and now they are 5700. I miss the days (not long ago ) in july 2015 when i bought a met pro with shaker nib for 4600. Also i bought a walking dead premium in jan 2016 for 6300 with shaker . Man how things have changed over a short time.

Yeah, the price jumps are coming with less time in between. It's everywhere though, new, used, even project machines.

Don't believe everything you read here....

Lots of smoke and mirrors here in this thread.

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stern has gotten nuts with raising prices. nothing but greed. new metallica pro was $4600 when it came out.

Yep and now the same pin is around 5400 i believe

some info I track on the Stern Price watch thread - all in MSRP launch prices as a consistant comparison

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/sterns-game-release-history

2018

March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / Pro / $5999
March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / Premium / $7599
March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / LE (500 of) / $8999

February/ 2018 / "Supreme" / Boutique (Re-themed Spiderman Home Edition design game) / $???? unknown at this stage - apparently only 12 to be made

January / 2018 / AC/DC VE / Premium LUCI / $7699
These games now have the removable window for the Premium playfield

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2017

October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy / Pro / $ 6,199
October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy / Premium / $7,899
October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy/ LE / $8,999

June / 2017 / Star Wars / Pro / $6199
June / 2017 / Star Wars / Premium / $7899
June / 2017 / Star Wars / LE (800) / $8999

May / 2017 / AC/DC VE / Pro / $6099
May / 2017 / AC/DC VE / Premium / $7699
These games now have slightly different are and the removable window for the Premium playfield

January / 2017 / Aerosmith / Pro / $6199
January / 2017 / Aerosmith / Premium / $7899
January / 2017 / Aerosmith / LE (500) / $8999

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2016

September / 2016 / Spiderman / The Pin / $3800

First game with LCD Display, not a DMD
August / 2016 / Batman 66 / Pro - not available this time around
August / 2016 / Batman 66 / Premium (probably be the new Pro concept in 2017) / $8599
August / 2016 / Batman 66 / LE (240 only) / $9999
August / 2016 / Batman 66 / Super LE (30 + 50 only due to demand) / $14999

July / 2016 / PBR "Can Crusher" / Boutique (Re-themed Whoa Nellie design game) / $6995

March / 2016 / Ghostbusters / Pro / $5995
March / 2016 / Ghostbusters / Premium / $7595
March / 2016 / Ghostbusters / LE / $8795

January / 2016 / Spiderman VE (Comic Version) / $7595

MSRP doesn't work because the street price of earlier pins was well below the MSRP (usually 12-15%), whereas the street price now is almost the same as MSRP (street price is only about 4-5% less than MSRP) - because Stern took the slack out of the pricing. So looking at MSRP, it looks like Stern lowered prices, when effectively they raised street prices - again, but this is a trick they can only pull once.

I get what you are saying but the info was just a tool to show what was released officially but that is interesting and thanks for the further insight and understand more.

Aus prices just went up which now after your explanation makes sense.

Whereas in the UK, Stern are taking the p!$$.

The GBP has recently strengthened against the USD so Stern decided that rather than us getting more value for our money, we could instead afford to pay more!

Iron Maiden Pro - £6,395 ($9,124) is the MAP
Iron Maiden Prem - £8,695 ($12,404)
Iron Maiden LE - £10,995 ($15,686)

'Older' machines don't fair much better

ST Prem - £7,995 ($11,406)
GB Prem - £7,495 ($10,693)
Total NA - £6,595 ($9,409)
GotG/SW Pro - £6,295 ($8,981)

So the CHEAPEST NIB Stern available is as good as $9k.

JJP (standard) prices are:
WoZ - £8,795
PotC - £8,695
DI/ Hobbit - £7,995

ps These prices are from the biggest, best and cheapest distributor in the UK

I have a feeling that these pinball companies are close to pricing most people out. The price hikes are getting out of f*cking hand.

Here is Aussie's Distributor price and we don't have competitive pricing, but Pro's went up even though prices went down, Premium's went down (good thing), LE's went up even though Stern's remained the same. And to add our dollar has been very consistent for a quite awhile.

AMD prices in Aussie Dollars

IRON MAIDEN PINBALL - STERN ​3 MODELS AVAILABLE
IRON MAIDEN PRO - $8450.00 (due end May)
IRON MAIDEN PREMIUM - $10,650.00 (due end July)
IRON MAIDEN LIMITED EDITION - $12,950.00 (due end June)

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY PINBALL ​3 MODELS AVAILABLE
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY PRO PINBALL - $8350.00
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY PREMIUM PINBALL - $10,800.00
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY LIMITED EDITION - $12,350.00




and in comparison with Stern's USD MSRP release

March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / Pro / $5999
March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / Premium / $7599
March / 2018 / Iron Maiden / LE (500 of) / $8999

October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy / Pro / $ 6,199
October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy / Premium / $7,899
October / 2017 / Guardians of the Galaxy/ LE / $8,999

Pins out of box resale is at 85-90% even with raising prices. When the resale percentage gets lower than this will slow NIB sales.

These games earn well on location. The new games earn great and are still worth the cost.

When resale gets to a lower level or games don’t earn that’s when street pricing will start leveling out.

Isn't that the way it SHOULD be? It's an unlimited product. Dealers want to cut people a deal on shipping or paying cash vs. credit...okay...but what you're paying for the game itself really shouldn't be different. Entitled babies want their "rich guy discount" NOW, after supporting years of price-Jack'ing, while all the rest of us living on a median income were like "NOPE NOPE NOPE" and ya'll told us to stop whining?

I think all the manufacturers have implemented a "no discounts" pricing strategy. This is a bummer - but it is STILL a good idea to buy from a distributor as they can help you out with issues and have a direct line back to Stern, JJP, AP, etc., and you definitely get the game to your door faster.

There are ALWAYS discounts if you're willing to be patient.

In the USA, new in box street prices (that are generally the norm from a distributor) for Iron Maiden

PRO: Increased from $5,400 (previous model) to $5,600
Premium: Held at $7,300 from previous model
LE: Increased to $8,800+ from $8,500 before they sold out

So overall definitely an increase, despite MSRP holding or dropping.

For sure - but I thought we were talking NIB

It's NIB as well. I'm sure if you called around you could find a GOTG LE for less than the $8500 minimum. Same for past games like WWE and KISS. Distributors aren't going to keep their money tied up in dead inventory.

Everyone will have a different experience, I guess, but I was able to buy 3 of 4 of my last NIB games for fairly good discounts off what seemed to be a universally held "you can't find it for less" $number$. Not the case with TNA. TNA was full asking... and the other games were hot titles.

I also had a bizarre mixup with a well known distributor about 1.5 yrs ago where he thought I was going to be purchasing a game to sell direct to a client. When in reality, I had done some work on some games for a local guy and he asked me to help him find a certain title. Before I was able to clarify, the distributor quoted me a price that was about $500 less than what I'd expect to find on a good street deal (which revealed - to me - an even bigger profit than I thought was baked into pricing).

So, in sum, I think there's always decent wiggle room if you're willing to be patient and shop around, despite the appearance of line-in-the-sand pricing.

KISS and WWE have always been exempt to the minimum pricing rules.

Those days are over - that's what the minimum pricing is about. Stern and JJP have stopped allowing distributors to discount - or I'm being lied to.

No, you're right. Officially the distributors can't go below the price floor. Unofficially a distributor might, but they could technically get in trouble for doing so. If you score a deal below the price floor, don't be spreading that info or it might be the last time you get that deal.

You can believe what you want.

Remind me to never ask to borrow your iPad.

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Was kind of a shitty post.

Ok so that’s probably the best way to put it.

Well i guess that explains all of your BS posts then!