This is exactly how I feel about the subject. I will add that if I just started in the pinball hobby in the last 10 years owning only new machines I might not see the quality difference. My first machines were from the early 90’s and that is a comparison I have to make personally. Going backwards in materials used and build quality just makes me feel like I am not getting good value. I will never believe that current pins can’t be made with similar high quality materials and the great build quality I saw in the 90’s. We are not talking about some future technology we don’t know about yet to make great quality pins. It was already done in the past so some of us know we could have it if pin companies had the will to do it. That is the frustration for me.

Problem with this analogy is B/W continued to make better and better machines as time went on. By the late 80’s into the early 90’s B/W made the best build quality machines we have ever seen. Stern’s quality has actually gone backwards since the early 2000’s. How that is not a problem for people I have no idea.

Lord of the Rings was 2003. You two were saying....

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I like wood. Wood is good....

Of course you are correct about why people really melted down but Levi loves his revisionist history.