I totally get it. I’ve been in the Spike thread expressing my concern with it. I didn’t want to buy a Spike game, but I bit the bulletin because I wanted something new and I can’t afford a JJP.

Exactly why they need to make a VE re-skinned from the original movie.

It’s taking longer because their updating to Spike, LCD, etc.

Just no. Tron is one of Sterns darkest games. Old Trons on route look like shit. Even the ones with lighted ramps.

Check out the lighting and light show on Star Wars Pro. One billion times better than Trons sorry ass lighting.

And the real reason Stern will do a vault Tron is because there are only about 2 people left on the face of the earth that are going to pay $6k or more ($7k, for a pro...lol) for a used one. Which means no one will sell their games, because everyone paid through the nose for their Trons (or modding them) and the don’t want to take a loss. More current Tron owners are going to die with Tron in their basement than any other game.

It’s sad too. I might pull the trigger on a used Tron for a reasonable price, but IMO, the only must have mod on that game is Eli’s Ramps. To pay thousands more for all the bling is not worth it to me. And these days, I don’t think I’m in the minority.

I enjoyed Legacy much more then the original. To each their own I guess.

The original is a bit of a mess really, but since it's from my childhood I still love it, because nostalgia is a powerful drug. Legacy was whatever. I enjoyed it for what it was.

Point isn't whether or not you liked it, or even if it's a good game or good movie, it's just that there's really no cultural significance to the franchise now. I have no idea what Stern will do, maybe they'll surprise me and make a vault. I just doubt it, I don't think it's all that great of a candidate for it.

They did Iron Man, which is another cult fav in a similar vein, so who knows. In that case though the Marvel movies are freaking juggernaughts, so it made more sense.

I’d say really, Stern probably has to have an idea how many it’ll sell at xyz price.

If they feel like the market is only 300 pins maybe they don’t bother. But if they feel like it’s more like 600+ pins maybe that’s worth the time.

I’d like a new art Tron Legacy pin better play field art but otherwise the same rules etc. I might even buy a new one at that and sell the original.

If this is true why would Disney spend the amount of money they are on a new Tron ride at their park? If nobody cared about Tron wouldn't they spend that money on something that was more desirable?

IMO Legacy is way better.

Who doesn’t love Olivia Wilde?

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Because it's an asset they own and it works thematically. If they really cared that much they wouldn't have scrapped sequel plans.
Does anyone, other than o-din, and I care aboot Mr. Toad? It's still in Cali.

I so miss that ride. Pooh is a fun ride too, but not worth replacing Mr Toad. Whenever I am in CA, I go on it multiple times to get my fix.

I know, great ride. My dad is a huge Wind & the Willows fan so I'm familiar with it but I doubt anyone under the age for 30 knows the reference.

Maybe it will be a huge hit and bring back the pinball.

Stern haven't been spending money on Vaults since Spiderman VE - all new art and DMD graphics - which I suspect may not have sold as well as they'd hoped given the effort invested. If it did sell less well than hoped, I suspect it may be because so many had serious quality issues .... it was the canary in the coal mine before the farce with GB. But I doubt the bean counters would be willing to acknowledge that.

ST 'VE' is identical. ACDC, changes are absolutely minimal. Both have sold for little to no additional effort.

I think Stern are more keen on minimal cost and maximum return.

Trouble is, the low hanging fruit is running out. I can imagine them giving Metallica or TWD a break for a year and then bringing them back as 'VE' SKUs.

After that though, they'd have to start doing something like Spiderman IMO. As I'd said in another thread, I was told that GoT was a candidate for such treatment. Tron obviously is. The question is would either actually make the investment worth it? People are also talking about LotR, but there are so many out there already, cost of porting WhiteStar to SAM is unknown, then presumably new art and DMD animations, and a top $ license.

It wouldn't surprise me if we don't get anything like SM VE again, but on the other hand it woukdn't surprise me if they do try it again.

Tron makes sense and I'd grab one. not sure what they can do to update GOT like spiderman.... other than re-run it as is.

My whole point is that Tron may well make no sense from Stern's point of view. Lot of expense and effort, for potentially underwhelming return.

GoT was not well received for pf, cabinet or translite art. The DMD went back to the dot-ised video - a bit like original Spiderman.

I dunno what they'll do, but I suspect the case (for their business) for VEs that involve significant time, money and effort are marginal at best for them.

They should just retheme, reskin and re-release... i love me some TRON, but it’s my favorite pin due to gameplay not theme (though I do like the theme a lot and think it is one of the better integrations).

Too much fun to keep it on the grid.

Why do that, when they could just spend the time developing a new game? No one who owns (or maybe owned) a Tron wants to buy a 'new' game that's just a recycle of what they already have/had.

The OP has a phobia about buying a used game, but if you really want a Tron they're out there. Not everything needs to cater to NIB collectors who obsess over shooter lane wear.

I’d be very tempted to buy a Tron remake at pro pricing, premium price and I’d pass. It’s a great game but not $7K good.

I’m sitting on a gold mine! I’m the original owner of my Tron Pro bought in January of 2012. And I hope they do a new run / VE. Everyone should get to enjoy this game if they want to.

Cause plenty of people like it “for the game play” and can’t find or afford one.

Game played fast and brutal. Shots were sometimes tricky. I liked it. I also like stop and go design as well.

Basically if the pin is immersive, well balanced, great theme, I’m in.

If you can't afford one you can't afford a NIB one either. The price difference between Stern prices and a nice used Tron is a few hundred bucks now. Granted more if it's covered in desirable mods you want, it's one of the few games that has mods that are worth it enough to hold value, but you'd pay for them anyways then.

Anyways, I don't work for Stern or have a crystal ball, maybe they'll do it. I'm just stating my case for why I wouldn't wait for it, if you want the game then buy a used one is my take.

I'd think about buying one. I love the theme so much I named my daughter Cora, the wife didn't find out the inspiration for that name until later

Which is why I am glad I got mine in 2015 (especially since everyone was saying the “VE announced any day now” even then).

How unusual...another Tron VE thread...sure is a slow news week!!

That could be, but it's got nothing to do with Spike being brighter. SAM has the more robust lighting system and can produce more flash. Whether programming takes advantage of that is another question. On the question of brightness, there's no reason to move to Spike.

Whitestar is production ready and has even been run recently. LoTR LE was already a Whitestar/SAM hybrid as well. I'm wondering why you think porting to SAM is a requirement? I don't see why it would be.

Talk of migrating older systems to a new platform is kind of defeating the purpose of the vault concept, which is obviously cash in on a popular title with minimal effort. Also, by Stern's definition, porting to a new platform would mean it's not a vault edition, as they've said vaults would be on the original platform.

+1 on this

I wish!

There is some TRON news today it appears....

https://pitchfork.com/news/daft-punk-call-it-quits/

I guess that means no Daft Punk in the next TRON movie - if it is even made.

This needs to be reality