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STERN PINBALL is taken for granted way too often......excluding Gary!


By iceman44

75 days ago



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    #101 75 days ago
    Quoted from freeplay3:

    That's true, but that's on the individual restaurant. We all have at one time said "don't go to that (pick any resturant with multiple locations) go to the good one," Even if it's a few extra miles.
    If you ordered a game from a distributor and had it set up in your house. Then you discover they only used 5 leg bolts, you cant blame Stern. Now when your cabinet cracks or you have pooling on your posts, that's not on your distributor. I also think it's on your distributor to help make it right. That's a whole other argument. McDonald's Corp is insane on consistent food. What they ship from location to location is the same. How each location screws it up is on them.
    *Again, not an endorsement to eat that nasty food except in an emergency. One where you drive 7 hours each way to pick up a killer deal on a pinball. You're starving and it's the only thing open.

    Then it’s apples and oranges is it it?

    I’ll remind you every other single burger joint has it’s own QC issues. Nobody in the industry is 100 percent.

    And stop recommending people eat McDonald’s!

    #102 75 days ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Then it’s apples and oranges is it it?
    I’ll remind you every other single burger joint has it’s own QC issues. Nobody in the industry is 100 percent.
    And stop recommending people eat McDonald’s!

    I was only building off the other burger comparison posts here.
    Seriously, Stern needs to fix the clearcoat issues. Hopefully they did and all is well. I bought a Wonka and its pooling. Not a peep from JJP and now I won't buy from them again. I also had a GB pro that had separated on a corner. It was on location for a bit and I fixed it myself and it was fine. If I could fix the clearcoat on Wonka that easily, it would be fine.

    Also, dont eat McDonald's.

    #103 75 days ago

    Dont you mean stern takes their customers for granted way too often?

    #104 75 days ago
    Quoted from freeplay3:

    *Again, not an endorsement to eat that nasty food except in an emergency. One where you drive 7 hours each way to pick up a killer deal on a pinball. You're starving and it's the only thing open.

    No, not even then. Starve or plan ahead with fruit, protein bars, and raw almonds.

    #105 75 days ago

    fanboys to gary since we are talking burgers in a pinball thread.

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    #106 75 days ago

    Totally agree. Stern makes terrible burgers and their drive-through sucks.

    #107 75 days ago

    This thread be like:

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    #108 75 days ago

    McDonald's has gone to shit. Used to be cheap fast and tasty now it's none of the above. The prices are nuts and they clearly let the food sit longer than ever.

    Every so often you might "win the McDonald's lottery" and get fresh fries and a juicy burger but it's rare. Unless you're in an airport where McD is so busy the food has no time to sit.

    #109 75 days ago

    Now I want a new Diner/McDonalds/Burger King Game!

    #110 75 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Competition alone won't lower prices. But it can lead to more opportunity and worldwide sales and then ultimately better pricing, which is the goal.
    As long as Stern remains the clear #1 like Apple, they get to enjoy higher margins on their games than the others.
    "Gotta keep the line moving". Overhead is a bitch. See Deeproot.

    If competition were to lead to worldwide sales and more opportunity, then it sounds like you are speaking of a growing market.

    The only problem with view is, for the most part, the manufacturing is a mature market with most of inefficiencies already squeezed out. I.E. Stern has built 1000s of pins and knows how to squeeze the last penny out of production.
    There would be no cost savings to be gained.

    Rather, if Stern was to stumble into a growing market, it would most likely need to tool up a new production plant. Somebody will be paying for that new equipment.

    A growing market would be gravy for Stern but you will still be paying a premium price.

    #111 75 days ago

    A McDonalds game would be awesome. Go old school 70s/80s. Gather up grimace, the fri guys, etc. Meanwhile you could count the points as hamburgers. The hamburglar can come steal them away.

    #112 75 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    The only problem with view is, for the most part, the manufacturing is a mature market with most of inefficiencies already squeezed out. I.E. Stern has built 1000s of pins and knows how to squeeze the last penny out of production.
    There would be no cost savings to be gained.

    Sure you would. Fixed costs spread out over more units sold equals more net profit to the bottom line. I'm not talking about COGS or variable costs.

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    #113 75 days ago

    Just a heads up fellas, I had breakfast with my distributor rep Thursday. He had 2 bits of info for me regarding pinball...no timeline on when I can expect my MMR and in 2020, the price of a new Stern is going up. He told me to expect to pay $150-300 more depending on the title. (We only order pros for the route, premiums and LEs may go up more.)

    #114 75 days ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Sure you would. Fixed costs spread out over more units sold equals more net profit to the bottom line. I'm not talking about COGS or variable costs.

    I understand spreading the costs. But why would Stern BG br motivated to share the savings with you, or us?

    If a company is maxed production wise and making all it can sell what be the incentive to lower prices and then add to a demand that it could not meet?

    #115 75 days ago
    Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:

    This thread be like:[quoted image]

    You couldn’t even be bothered to photoshop a burger in there?

    Thread is seriously lacking in innovation!

    #116 75 days ago
    Quoted from ryanbrooks:

    Just a heads up fellas, I had breakfast with my distributor rep Thursday. He had 2 bits of info for me regarding pinball...no timeline on when I can expect my MMR and in 2020, the price of a new Stern is going up. He told me to expect to pay $150-300 more depending on the title. (We only order pros for the route, premiums and LEs may go up more.)

    I was at the post office the other day and the postal worker said postage rates go up on Jan. 1.

    The annual price increase is turning into a right of passage for most companies today it seems.

    #117 75 days ago
    Quoted from ryanbrooks:

    Just a heads up fellas, I had breakfast with my distributor rep Thursday. He had 2 bits of info for me regarding pinball...no timeline on when I can expect my MMR and in 2020, the price of a new Stern is going up. He told me to expect to pay $150-300 more depending on the title. (We only order pros for the route, premiums and LEs may go up more.)

    Close your wallet or bend and take it.

    #118 75 days ago
    Quoted from ryanbrooks:

    the price of a new Stern is going up. He told me to expect to pay $150-300 more depending on the title. (We only order pros for the route, premiums and LEs may go up more.)

    When Stern sees FOMO buyers lining up for other pins around 7k+ base games, not surprising.
    It can’t be getting any easier for operators in this environment.

    #119 74 days ago

    The one thing McDonalds has going for it are Happy Meals; the kids fucking love them & they are cheap.

    #120 74 days ago
    Quoted from benheck:Every so often you might "win the McDonald's lottery" and get fresh fries and a juicy burger but it's rare.

    U gotta know how to work it Ben. No salt on the Fries and special order burger, no onion or something and they have to make it fresh.

    #121 74 days ago
    Quoted from Hazoff:

    U gotta know how to work it Ben. No salt on the Fries and special order burger, no onion or something and they have to make it fresh.

    That's what they used to do Hazoff. Now they just pull a burger Patti out of a drawer that has been in there for 2 hours and throw it in the microwave for 10 seconds and slap your burger together.

    #122 74 days ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    I understand spreading the costs. But why would Stern BG br motivated to share the savings with you, or us?
    If a company is maxed production wise and making all it can sell what be the incentive to lower prices and then add to a demand that it could not meet?

    They aren’t even close to max production

    Competition. How long has it been since a cornerstone price increase

    And by lowering price they sell more units and thump the competition.

    We will see how it all plays out

    Plus, the economy and the consumer are as good as it gonna get

    Price multiples are gonna revert back to the mean at some point

    #123 74 days ago

    Spooky is releasing 750 r&m, how much are they gonna go for

    #124 74 days ago
    Quoted from wiggy07:

    Tilted, same here. Got two cheeseburgers from McDonalds, opened them and started to eat. I thought the burger tasted a little weird. Figured out they forgot to put the burgers in the bun on both items.

    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    Happened to me as well.

    Lmao! Well boys, glad to hear i’m Not the only one. Thanks for sharing.

    #125 74 days ago
    Quoted from kermit24:

    That is beyond their production capacity.

    Not even close to it. They have the capacity to do 115 machines a day.

    #126 74 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Not even close to it. They have the capacity to do 115 machines a day.

    Thank you.

    #127 74 days ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    They have the capacity to do 115 machines a day.

    But they don't have enough quality control to look at more than 15 a day at the most.

    #128 74 days ago
    Quoted from JohnnyPinball007:

    But they don't have enough quality control to look at more than 15 a day at the most.

    Heyo!!! Zingers for days! Haha

    #129 74 days ago

    You said that they are making 25K games a year. You wasnt talking about how many games they were capable of making.

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    #130 74 days ago

    I can’t believe they put the projector shroud on R2 sideways and a big screw next to those wonky lenses...crazy
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    #131 74 days ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    You said that they are making 25K games a year. You wasnt talking about how many games they were capable of making.

    You are correct...I was talking about how many pins they are currently making. In this case how many they are capable of making and how many they are actually making is one and the same. Why do you think after the first of the year Stern is increasing prices 3%-5%???

    #132 74 days ago

    I don't understand the "Stern makes more games so they are the best" argument. Yes, Stern makes more games then anyone else. Does that mean they are offering the best product? No, you will get different opinions on that.

    By the argument above I suppose Outback makes the best steaks as they sell more of them then what Ruth's Chris does? No. Ford must offer the best cars as they sell more Fusions then what Ferraris latest model sold. No. Dominoes offers the best pizza as they sell the most. Lol, hell no.

    #133 74 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    I don't understand the "Stern makes more games so they are the best" argument. Yes, Stern makes more games then anyone else. Does that mean they are offering the best product? No, you will get different opinions on that.

    I don't agree with the most means the best either. Jesus look at record sales. I do think they make the best games but who cares.

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