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Stern Pinball, and Why Williams Still Outperforms Them

By PDXGeek

6 years ago

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    #20 6 years ago
    Quoted from chill:

    Gotta admit, my newer Sterns have fewer breakages than the older B/W games I've had.

    Give them 20 years.

    Oh wait, that's right....a lot of them are not getting routed either.

    #166 6 years ago
    Quoted from TwilightZone:

    I have a buddy that is an op and he says the Sterns are outperforming the Williams. I think the cash box speaks with authority . He has been selling all his Williams and buying the latest Sterns. All are performing very, very well.
    In terms of your observation about it being clear what shot to hit, I think Stern with the exception of a few games, has done a great job. When I first played LOTR, I figure it out pretty quickly. Same with Xmen, Avengers, Tron, etc. All very clear.
    In the case of Xmen, there is a massive Wolverine toy. Hit that x times and start multiball. Don't think it can get any more obvious than than. Same with Avengers. Massive, moving Hulk toy. Hit it and start multiball.
    Once you get over the obvious MB, I think Stern is kicking a$$ by providing deeper rules. I personally own spiderman, LOTR, and TSPP. I'll take any of these three over any Williams A title. The rules just don't compare.

    And I'm the opposite. I had LOTR for eight years and no doubt it's a great pin.....but 2hr games where killing me. I started to avoid playing it because I didn't want to commit the time. Same reason TSPP is not on my want list.

    #173 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Open the outlanes and make it steeper. The game is not supposed to last that long. LOTR can have long ball times, but some adjusting can really go a long way. Same for TSPP, which already has much lower ball times than LOTR anyway.

    Sure.....and then you don't get anywhere.

    I want to finish the game....or at least get to the final mode and I don't want it to take two+ hours to do so.

    WCS is pretty easy. I can win the World Cup in about 20 minutes.....never seems to get old though (as long as I have some other machines to mix up the play).

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    #215 6 years ago
    Quoted from Concretehardt:

    When I move from SM (awesome freakin game) over to my MB one thing I notice is how solid and well built the MB feels.. Not sure how else to say it but MB oozes quality compared to My SM
    It's like jumping out of a Chevy caprice into a high Mercedes when I switch back and forth between the two.
    Sorry but Stern games feel a little more like a disposable Bic lighter and B/W games are more like
    Not bashing sterns I love them, but like everything (not just pins)quality seems to slip more as the years go by.

    I notice this every time as well. Stern makes some fantastic playing pins! I'd absolutely LOVE to have AC/DC, Tron, Avengers, SM & IM. But they do "feel" cheaper built.

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