I played it also... couldn't make it through three balls. It felt too much like a toy. That said, I agree... at a price of $2-2.5k the value could be there... especially for those that don't regularly play pinball... but for those that do I imagine for the same $2-2.5k they'd rather buy an older classic.

The game is not meant for collectors like us. It is meant for first time entry levels buyers that want something brand new with a warranty with limited mechs that won't be breaking down all the time.

as long as we are making up completely imaginary figures at what we'd like to believe Stern could make and sell this for...

I think it would be a great deal at 1.5 K

It would be an even better deal at $500!

I would take one if you gave me $350.

I ain't givin' you no tree-fitty.

Not to be a dick....... Where are these non savvy pinball playing people with a extra 4k for a expensive toy.

Dont see a market in it sorry.

Stern believes there is an entry level market for them. It's not that they are non-savvy. It is people that want a single game for their man cave and don't want the headache of a 20 year old used game.

I don't think 4K is a good price point but perhaps that will come down.

One of the problems with their game plan is the thought process.

Just starting with the overall design being smaller than a full size machine instills the perception of being a toy. Even if they scaled down the full size game 25% and you put side by side most here would feel it was a toy or lesser model per say.

Trying to grab this small market on the current game plan does not seem like a winning combination.

The only feedback on this model, "the pin", that I get is from pinside. It's is discusssed here as a total failure. Stern has made several of these. It would be interesting to know the actual costs and sales numbers. They (Stern) don't appear to be giving up.

And thats where our extra dollars are going..... free R&D

I actually kind of like this concept. I am no newbie - I've been playing pinball for the past 40 years. I do prefer the early SS classics, and have absolutely zero interest in modern games, but this one seems to hit a sweet spot for me. I currently have 5 machines, ranging from 1976 through 1989 (Night Moves). 3 of my games are from 1980/81.

Modern games are way too complicated for me, this one has a great look to it and seems not to be overly complicated, and a good way for me to have the NIB experience. I ordered one today after watching the 2 hour Dead Flip video for the second time. The game seems like fun to me. I don't care about toys, and multi-levels, and this seems just about right for me to be a part of the modern pinball experience.

Is the price a little high? Probably, but I wanted it. And the best part is, I can now post some new material on my YouTube channel.

We played this at Yegpin 2017. One of our sponsors, Nitro Pinball, brought it along. I'm glad they let us try it, it was actually a blast! My only complaint would probably be the somewhat flimsy ball return ramp (wobbles a little bit but probably no worse than EATPM). Some solenoids are tied together and fire simultaneously, but honestly, it's barely noticeable (I had to actually point it out to my friend). I really loved the simplicity of the "Save Mary Jane" captive ball feature, I had never seen this done on a pin before. If I had more money (and space for more than 1 pin) I would actually consider it.

I don't have a stream, I just post videos. Here's the last one I posted...

And here's a vid I made today of the Spider-Man machine ...

I am really liking this game! I watched the commentary video as well, at least it explained why I was getting a S-P-I-D-E-R letter spotted when I hit the MJ target. It also helped me to understand that you need to make the shots BOTH ways to defeat the villains.

I don't have any EM games. I do like them, but are slow and troublesome to me. I have early SS games, Including 3 cocktails.

I'm on vacation now, and can't wait to wake up and play some more. But I wait until 11 AM as I have to consider my neighbors!

Although I understand why people might have disdain for this machine, like Chippe I'm in NYC where people often don't have room to buy a large pack of paper towels, let alone a pinball machine.

While I havent seen it in person, I actually like that the head unit is smaller and lower, making it less visually obtrusive in a living room.

Of course I'd love to have space for a game room with several machines, but for me a machine this size might be the ticket.

I first learned of the machine from a YouTube video tour of Sterns factory, where they mentioned it might be sold in Costco one day, which would be ideal, Since one is close by and they have a great return policy in case it has issues or doesn't live up to expectations.

I do agree that $4k is a bit steep. Hoping to find this discounted or used.