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Stern of the Union Address


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#1501 76 days ago

These monthly addresses get worse every month. It's all fluff and means little to those that purchase games- both operators and home players. No wonder I'm buying Bally/Williams games lately....

#1502 76 days ago
Quoted from Wmsfan:

These monthly addresses get worse every month. It's all fluff and means little to those that purchase games- both operators and home players. No wonder I'm buying Bally/Williams games lately....

I've always found Bally/Williams to have great updates each month...said no one ever.

#1503 76 days ago
Quoted from Wmsfan:

It's all fluff

So much fluff... and a GB code update. Basically here's this month's SOTU summed up...

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#1504 76 days ago

CSI peeps have been waiting even longer.

I’m pumped to see BM66 is getting an update. It’s already the best coded game in the history of pinball (my personal opinion) so I can’t even imagine what else may be coming on that time.

How much memory is left to work with on BM66? Can they add much more new video?

#1505 76 days ago

Or maybe address the clearcoat elephant in the room?

#1506 76 days ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Or maybe address the clearcoat elephant in the room?

Nahhhhhhh. Much easier to show fabricated fan videos from trade shows and bloviate about whatever the F*** the Stern Army is. Avoid talking about the real issue at hand and the numerous NIB orders cancelled and the new PF’s crumbling on location.

Remember last week this wasn’t “a widespread issue”. Not my words... direct quote from Stern Marketing. And since that quote last week there have been countless PF issues noticed... and this release today is the communication from Marketing. Purely embarrassing.

#1507 76 days ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

How much memory is left to work with on BM66? Can they add much more new video?

Plenty of room to add video. Quite a bit of unused footage was removed a couple of releases ago.

#1508 76 days ago

Memory isn’t an issue. Just add a bigger SD card... Done.

#1509 75 days ago

Why can't a diamondplate 2.0 playfield be created...it's insane that the largest pinball manufacturer can't bulletproof a playfield in this day and age

#1510 75 days ago

They will cut costs until it bites them and then ease up a little.

This is not a universal problem. If it were everyone would have issues now. The good news is that Stern has been good in the past when Metallica era games had issues and then when the whole ghosting thing happened. They will hopefully fix this and replace the damaged playfields. Until then, don’t buy until you are comfortable.

#1511 75 days ago
Quoted from enjoyvelvet:

Why can't a diamondplate 2.0 playfield be created...it's insane that the largest pinball manufacturer can't bulletproof a playfield in this day and age

Some people with sophistication in this area have opined that the chemical combination used for diamondplate in the early 90’s cannot be used today for regulatory reasons. I’m not sure, but that sounds as reasonable of a reason as I could think of. Shame too, diamondplate was awesome stuff!

#1512 75 days ago
Quoted from desertT1:

They will cut costs until it bites them and then ease up a little.
This is not a universal problem. If it were everyone would have issues now. The good news is that Stern has been good in the past when Metallica era games had issues and then when the whole ghosting thing happened. They will hopefully fix this and replace the damaged playfields. Until then, don’t buy until you are comfortable.

Absolutely agree w this....

#1513 75 days ago
Quoted from desertT1:

They will cut costs until it bites them and then ease up a little.
This is not a universal problem. If it were everyone would have issues now. The good news is that Stern has been good in the past when Metallica era games had issues and then when the whole ghosting thing happened. They will hopefully fix this and replace the damaged playfields. Until then, don’t buy until you are comfortable.

No doubt this is true....Stern will save a buck if they could...lets hope both JJP and Stern address this issue soon....

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#1514 75 days ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Some people with sophistication in this area have opined that the chemical combination used for diamondplate in the early 90’s cannot be used today for regulatory reasons. I’m not sure, but that sounds as reasonable of a reason as I could think of. Shame too, diamondplate was awesome stuff!

That's what I was thinking. The fucking useless EPA ruining shit for everybody.

#1515 75 days ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

That's what I was thinking. The fucking useless EPA ruining shit for everybody.

This excuse is nonsense, clearcoats today are orders of magnitude better than they were 50 years ago. As an added bonus they don't cause your employees to suffer and die. You get what you pay for and companies need to evolve as products do. If your trying to use the cheapest clear coat and the same techniques from 50 years ago this is what happens.

#1516 75 days ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

That's what I was thinking. The fucking useless EPA ruining shit for everybody.

You can spray just about anything if you pony up for the proper ventilation and buy a fume incinerator unit to burn up any toxic fumes before they leave the building.

#1517 75 days ago

Funny how so many people just jump to the old "it must be greed" argument.

Quoted from KenLayton:

Some people with sophistication in this area have opined that the chemical combination used for diamondplate in the early 90’s cannot be used today for regulatory reasons. I’m not sure, but that sounds as reasonable of a reason as I could think of. Shame too, diamondplate was awesome stuff!

To me this is the more likely explanation. Things were rolling along fine all this time using the extremely poisonous clear coats from the last 25 years and the playfield manufacturers got caught unprepared by new regulations that made the old clears cost prohibitive. It takes time to field test new formulas. Remember that Diamond Plate appeared on a very limited number of test games YEARS before Williams started using it on all of their games. Coming up with the exact water based formula to replace the old hazardous formulas is obviously failing in some cases and working now in others. Given all of the test cases out there now, hopefully someone behind the scenes is keeping track of what is working and what isn't. Multiple playfield sources just serves to cloud the issue for the consumer. Maybe Mirco had problems first and the other suppliers switched to the new clear later on? Can't just pin it to one supplier because we here at Pinside simply don't know.

All that said, it still really surprises me that this issue has gotten this far. Literally JJP knew about this issue way more than 6 months ago. The fact that a single Wonka or JP2 shipped with these similar clearcoat issues leads me to think this problem is worse behind the scenes than we are being told and their hands may well be tied by regulations. If this was all caused by trying to save a few bucks per game on clear coating material, they would have switched back to the old formula months ago until they found and tested a better clear coat material.

#1518 75 days ago
Quoted from JodyG:

You can spray just about anything if you pony up for the proper ventilation and buy a fume incinerator unit to burn up any toxic fumes before they leave the building.

Mirco is in Germany. Nothing to do with the EPA. Probably even more strict over there.

#1519 75 days ago
Quoted from John_I:

Mirco is in Germany. Nothing to do with the EPA. Probably even more strict over there.

Stern isn't using Mirco and has identical issues on JP as JJP is having on Wonka and POTC.

#1520 75 days ago

Maybe they do.....No one really knows who makes their playfields and if it's multiple sources. Given the random issues would seem multiple....

#1521 75 days ago

don't y'all have enough "clear coat" threads already? Jeebus

#1522 75 days ago

I sent this to Dwight and Code.updates @ Stern

Hi Dwight, suggestion for the new code for GB...If you can implement this it would be Epic!

Definitely need the callout when the GB's fire their proton packs at the maid in the hotel....So you drain a ball or miss a shot and she says

"What the Hell are you Doing!"

........Hope they can implement this

#1524 75 days ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

Maybe they do.....No one really knows who makes their playfields and if it's multiple sources. Given the random issues would seem multiple....

Mirco has said Stern is not a customer.

#1525 75 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Mirco has said Stern is not a customer.

The problems seem to similar for that to be the case. Why the identical problem at the identical time? Fishy

#1526 75 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Mirco has said Stern is not a customer.

If you hadn't heard, you can't trust anyone in the pinball game.

#1527 75 days ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Some people with sophistication in this area have opined that the chemical combination used for diamondplate in the early 90’s cannot be used today for regulatory reasons. I’m not sure, but that sounds as reasonable of a reason as I could think of. Shame too, diamondplate was awesome stuff!

I doubt this is really the driver. I was responsible for large chemical manufacturing sites producing high end adhesives and composite coatings (including auto and aerospace clear coats) throughout the US and Europe, with plants in California and Germany, and we supplied high volumes of solvent based products. The drive is definitely toward water based but there are numerous industrial applications that still require solvent technologies. This issue is more likely that the playfield supplier doesn’t have the wherewithal or desire to invest in the emission control equipment and ongoing compliance management to handle solvent products.

#1528 75 days ago

Has anyone in Germany arranged a fist fight with oneangrymo? Perhaps while he is over there he could pay a visit to Mirco and check things out.

3 weeks later
#1529 48 days ago

Stern Of The Union Address - October 2019 :

Ghostbusters – In case you missed it, watch a replay of the code update for Ghostbusters with lead programmer Dwight Sullivan, Jack Danger, and special guests highlighting this comprehensive update. There are many new exciting features including a brand new wizard mode, redesigned wizard modes, and major game feature updates. This code also adds additional polish, score balancing, adjustments, system updates and contains bug fixes.

Jurassic Park – For all Jurassic Park owners, with Limited Edition and Premium models now leaving the factory be on the lookout for a new code update across all models later this month.

Batman ’66 – There is a new Batman update in the works.

More here :

https://sternpinball.com/2019/09/30/stern-of-the-union-address-october-2019/

#1530 48 days ago

I love that whoever configures Stern's insider emails doesn't even hyperlink text to the Stern Insider Signup and includes all the constant contact tracking info. Solid.

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#1531 48 days ago
Quoted from Guinnesstime:

I love that whoever configures Stern's insider emails doesn't even hyperlink text to the Stern Insider Signup and includes all the constant contact tracking info. Solid.[quoted image]

Hahahaha. They must have a bunch of dumb carnies working there.

#1532 48 days ago

Not even a mention of how Star Wars The Pin is doing.

#1533 48 days ago
Quoted from KenLayton:

Not even a mention of how Star Wars The Pin is doing.

They have never mentioned how successful any game is.

#1534 47 days ago

Oh boy I am so waiting for the Star Wars Topper! It is going to be so neato. (sarcasm)

#1535 47 days ago
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:

Oh boy I am so waiting for the Star Wars Topper! It is going to be so neato. (sarcasm)

To quote Dwight from the GB code update stream when asked about the Star Wars topper "I don't know where the hell that is" lol.

#1536 43 days ago
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:

Oh boy I am so waiting for the Star Wars Topper! It is going to be so neato. (sarcasm

Maybe Stern is working on a fully functional light saber for the topper and that’s the delay.

4 weeks later
#1537 13 days ago

STERN OF THE UNION ADDRESS – NOVEMBER 2019:
https://sternpinball.com/2019/11/04/stern-of-the-union-address-november-2019

Status of code:

Elvira – For all Elvira owners, please make sure you have updated your game to the most current code version (v0.86.). This code contains major bug fixes and enhancements that will significantly improve the gameplay and reliability of your game. Be on the lookout for a new code update later this month.

Jurassic Park – For all Jurassic Park owners, be on the lookout for a new code update later this month.

Batman ’66 – There is a new Batman update in the works.

#1538 13 days ago

Thre's a spotlight on Mark Guidarelli who is doing the Spike platform low-level software. Wasn't Lonnie doing that? I know some of the system bugs I found were attributed to his system code. Is he not doing that anymore?

#1539 13 days ago

These threads are quieter without the regular code outrage .

#1540 13 days ago
Quoted from Peanuts:

Batman ’66 – There is a new Batman update in the works.

oh snap. I wonder what will be added now

#1541 13 days ago
Quoted from Max_Badazz:

oh snap. I wonder what will be added now

This isn’t new. The same update has been in the last few SOTUs.

#1542 13 days ago
Quoted from frolic:

These threads are quieter without the regular code outrage .

Star Wars topper outrage starts in 3.. 2.. 1..

#1543 12 days ago
Quoted from Max_Badazz:

oh snap. I wonder what will be added now

Their 1970's appearances.

#1544 11 days ago
Quoted from frolic:

These threads are quieter without the regular code outrage .

Lol!!!!

#1545 8 days ago
Quoted from Sinestro:

Their 1970's appearances

OMG, I’ve not seen that before. LMAO!

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