I route a GB and my players know about a lot of the issues in the game. They didn’t need my help and often tell me things that I didn’t know yet.

Be absolutely certain there is nothing on the usb stick except for the update file. No folders no other files, nothing.

Stern has said GB is coming, but people still bitching about it??
They are doing great things about code, but I guess if everything isn't being done at once they deserve to be shit on.
Where is the Star Wars topper? Lol
Just as predicted, stern relates their plans, and now everyone bitches about timelines and things not being done NOW!

Yep i finally got it to download but it was weird how i had to do it. Not the same as the other downloads. Alot of people seemed to have problems with this one.

Pins updating from usb sticks are about as finicky as fords sync updates via usb. If you use a Mac it will be hard to work as well. Using windows to format fat32 is the best. However I think spike 2 may support exfat?

"Stern has said GB is coming, but people still bitching about it??"

There's a 50/50 shot we will get bumped. It's happened before.

You're right. Stern is doing a much, much better job lately.

But... Stern sold incomplete games & dragged their feet for way too long so although errbody is grateful for the communication & new hires there's years of frustration amplifying the emotion of GB, KISS & etc owners.

I haven't had any issues making these sticks on my Mac.

Yes. Hopefully that will not too far out. It will just depend on how far along Dwight has the Munster's code at release. With the new programmers at Stern, I hope that gives more time for the older games to get code updates in the near future before moving onto a new project.

Agree.

However the fact they have said they are working on KISS and other games has been enough for me to continue buying Stern games.

Waited so long for KISS, so as long as it is a great update, I don't mind too much now.

Well that’s good! It can get real finicky. Not sure my sterns have had issues either, I just have a handful of windows formatted fat32 sticks. Mac formatting a fat32 adds a bunch of hidden things.

"Incomplete is debatable, but good point.
I don't play some of these titles very much, but they earn decent, and there is pretty decent play there.

It's not Mac formatting, it's the Finder that adds the invisible files.

But that's all they are. They don't affect the format.

Obviously the only real solution, is to run a cli base Unix/Linux :-p

Ya they shouldn’t get in the way.

I think a lot of owners get so frustrated with Stern's code support as NIB Stern prices are the same across titles (except DMD vs LCD games) yet the code support across their releases isn't consistent. You can have one game receive a ton of code support with deep and unique rules and then another title offer the complete opposite yet the prices of both games are the same. One game may have its code completed within 6 months and the other within 2 years...if it's completed at all. That's BS at these prices.

Stern has been doing a much better job recently with their code support. I hope the trend continues and that the upcoming updates for KISS and Ghostbusters are substantial in the way that the latest Aerosmith update is.

The only REAL solution is an Amiga!

Wasn’t on the SOU announcement this month but looks like GOTG just got another code update little tweaks but still another code up!

New code seems to have just dropped.

PRO/PREM/LE V1.04 - Sept. 6, 2018
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- Added USA_13 Coinage 1/$1.00, 7/$5.00
- Update to nodeboard firmware v0.25.0
- Added adjustment to scale GI, Insert, and Flasher LED brightness, range
is 25% to 100%.
- Added adjustment to limit GI, Insert, and Flasher LED Max brightness, range
is 64 to 255.

The game is done. They just moved to the latest operating system. Even though the Color GI is still unused on Prem/LE

Please tell me your joking? That’s nuts!

What are you expecting? Not every game has to be deep as hell. Some games are focused on casual players. Wich might not be as good as we are. So it’s decent.

You said the colour GI isn’t coded, I would expect that to be coded especially since it’s a asvertised on the feature matrix and one of the reasons some people may have brought a Prem/LE.

And colour GI has nothing to do with code depth, so you have lost me a little there although if anything better lightshows draw in casual players and are a nice pay off for better players.

Just doesn’t make sense to have colour GI and not code it/use it.

Right. What i meant by saying the game is done. Is that the game is deep enough. But I would like to see the Color GI finally working thought.

That’s exactly what I meant, if there is colour GI it should most definitely be coded and used.

I was surprised when you posted saying it wasn’t, as colour GI is awesome in games like TWD and a game like GOTG would benefit from some colour GI in the code as the game is gorgeous!

Yup, Stern now appears to be putting out at least one title a year with a smaller number of modes that is more approachable for casual players. Last year it was Aerosmith, this year it's Guardians. I don't think it's a bad thing, just glad they are still making games that have deeper code and a lot of modes.

The rules are done on GOTG, but it still has some bugs and tweaks needed.

It’s a great approach, offers something for everyone, I just can’t understand why they would put coloured GI in a game and then not code it or use it.

7 days from now... Stern has to let us know the status of Kiss ans GB code. I hope GB will arrive this year. And has at least the same amount of new and fixed stuff as Aerosmith had.

Supposedly GB is just bug fixes. Hopefully people are being vocal enough to get them to finish it properly.

Where did you see that GB was just bug fixes?

Star Wars Topper should have been done a year ago and Ghostbusters was released two years ago. I don't think people all of a sudden want these things "NOW". I believe people have been waiting on them for a while and the BS vase is full to the rim.

I will however state that their latest releases have been a lot better on code at release starting from Star Wars on and have been consistently getting more frequent updates.

It better not be. Owners are hoping for a large update along the lines of the Aerosmith update. If not that's BS.

If it's just bug fixes why make everyone wait for years?

To coincide with a "vault" release like they did with ST, perhaps. Wouldn't really be a vault edition, but just another run.

That's what happened with ST and the only thing that update appeared to do was reset my scores.

Yeah that one stunk. Didn't bother to fix the right ramp skill shot bug, or the rapid blinking lights on modes that don't time out.

Hadn't heard of that, please explain.

I am trying to dig up where I saw someone post about it being merely some bug fixes. It was something along the lines of "I talked to such and such at Stern a while back, and they said they were not planning on any major code changes for GB, mainly just fixing bugs."

As for the VE Ghostbusters...GB just had another run made at Stern back in July. It has never officially stopped production, because they are selling the crap out of them. I guess if sales are still strong, maybe they don't feel the need to improve the title?

Expecting to hear KISS is in the testing phase.

Hoping after a stupidly long wait that the final update is worth waiting for.

I will run naked around the garden if the cities do something extra

Seriously, a nice update, polish, new call out's, more balanced song scoring etc will be great.

I really hope so but I think the October update will mention that the update is being worked on, Nov still being worked on, Dec testing, Jan that work continues, Feb that its nearing release and finally its out in March. Same goes for the Ghostbusters update and its out next summer. I sure hope this doesn't happen but I can see it going that way, lol. Maybe by then the Star Wars topper will be released.

Nearly a year ago Stern said that a final code update for Ghostbusters will be worked on once Star Wars is finished...

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Man you guys study these things like they are the Rosetta Stone!

With prices rising like they are, we need to

I am consulting the stone now......

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So weird

Yeah, it's much better to just fork over the $5500 - $9k and not ask for a company to deliver completed code in a timely matter, lol.

They just churn these out. Probably Gary's nephew on an internship. They mean almost nothing. There's not enough actual news going on in the entire pinball industry to fill a monthly bulletin with anything of actual substance, much less one company.

And you guys live or die by these things and allow yourselves to be crushed monthly by them.

Has any actual REAL news EVER been broken by a Stern of the Union post?

Game of Thrones and Mustang code updates should come before GB & Kiss. I like to stir the pot while cooking. It help the plot to thicken.

Oh I know, when it comes to a Stern game receiving good code support we are basically playing the lottery. I got lucky with Star Wars but not so lucky with Ghostbusters at this point.

Oh wait this is just another code whining thread in disguise?

Got it. Carry on.

Nothing wrong with whining.

If you accept the status quo, nothing will ever change.

Stern have been way better with code as of late, so many more reasons to be hopeful that these updates will be good.

If the right ramp is your skill shot and you hit it first, it works. But if you hit some other target first, then you hit it, the game doesn't acknowledge the skill shot.

All my Stern games are updated nice, thanks lol
I vote with my money, not deciphering every little note Stern writes and falling for George's promises over and over and acting like I'm asking for something from them. Vote with your money.
EDIT: I mean it's not topper related so I guess that's progress.