I see this bandied about a lot.

Serious question time ... If no one is buying these Stern pins anymore because of *insert Pinside complaint of the day*, who would you purchase it from?

Second question ... You do find a HUO of *insert awesome game you really want* and it has *insert Pinside complaint of the day* issues, how much would you expect to save?

Eventually my RUO pins will come up for sale (unless I love the game, TWD, I'm looking at you). Pin has depreciated tax wise, has had thousands of plays, and has *insert Pinside complaint of the day* issues, how much would you expect to save?

How much are these discounts? Like, couple hundred bucks?

Say I have a SW Pro, routed, has 1 slight sliver of ghosting on a small insert. What's the discount you would be looking for?

Then say I have an Addams Family, routed, magnet burn, chair scoop blown out and mansion inserts raising with edged inserts. What's the discount? What would be a fair price?

Well, I think we both know how much that AF would go for up north. There would be 0 discount because it was routed, because they all were. IMHO it would be priced way too high.

I have a lot of Stern's with more than 5000 plays (a few with more than 10K). They all look fine, still work great, and still earn.

No worries, they'll send some mylar to you to stop the clear/paint/wood chipping until the metal scoop Cliffy shows up ... oh, you're talking about Stern? Carry on then.

My $1100 CPR play field for Whirlwind had crazing.

Plays better than the old play field that was in it!

CPR has a whole write up about their playfields on the website.

From their Gold class play field description ... "Is every playfield absolutely 100.000% perfect?? No. No playfield ever is."

Read the whole thing here, especially this part - COMMONLY QUESTIONED ATTRIBUTES BY FIRST-TIME BUYERS.

http://www.classicplayfields.com/standards.html

Just to confirm, if my game gets 10,000 plays in 364 days, and has something on the playfield I am not happy with (maybe chipped clear in the drain, or crackle in 1 insert, or too much shooter lane wear), you would replace it under warranty?

If so, every operator should be buying pins for their route through you.

Am I the only one who remembers the light ink on MMr play fields? The sling shots chewing into the playfield? Or the side rails that shredded the flesh from my thumbs?

I'm not saying there are any issues with AFMr by the way, but no manufacturer is immune to issues. None.

It sounds like things improved for sure. How did they rectify the MMr issues? Did they ship out populated play fields to people with light ink or chewed into sling area's? Or massive clear separation?

People have a sliver of ghosting on an insert and expect Stern to send a whole new play field. CGC basically said "Go F yourself" and people are spouting their praises.

I had customers CUTTING themselves on my MMr and they sent some tape and a sanding block.

Hopefully if people experience ANY clear separation, early wear in a ball trough or scoop, a slight blemish on a play field, CGC will do the right thing and send out a fully populated play field over night to the customer. It's the right thing to do, right?

On topic:

2400 plays and the sliver has not gotten worse. It's the only ghosting insert.

Should Stern replace the play field?

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