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Stern NEW policy - GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?

By capguntrooper

6 years ago


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“Are Cloudy inserts, stress cracks and GHOSTING often seen on NIB pins and should that be normal?”

  • NO WAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 601 votes
    77%
  • YES, ghosting is often seen on NIB pins and is normal. 45 votes
    6%
  • I don't care I am never buying a NIB from STERN again 135 votes
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#453 6 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

What are the "stern are getting rich by screwing us" crowd basing it on?
It's not exactly a secret that Stern was weeks away from going out of business at the end of the last decade. And now they are brushing their teeth with eagle feathers and feasting on Kobe beef every night? I don't know man.

They were keeping the lights on barely by selling nicely featured games at $3800 NIB. Now they are selling stripped games for $5000-$15000 at much a greater number of sales. Of course they have a new larger facility, but that is to support the massive increase in sales! The math is fairly easy.

#558 6 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Before, the different art/trim (sometimes backglass and shaker) were an $800 difference. It seemed relatively worth it for some custom stuff, especially if the game followed the Tron/AC/DC trend of holding/rising in value. When I bought Met LE, it was $6600. The Prem was $5800. Now the LE is what, like $1500 more than the Prem? No shaker. No real backglass. No value hold/rise. It's a different scene today.

You are literally paying $1500 for different (not necessarily better) art, some slightly fancier rails, and two extra translights that will be left in the box! Not even an $80 shaker or Stern's invisiglass/PDI thrown in!! It's kinda comical really.

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#608 6 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Well plus Austin Powers could "afford" all those toys because they saved monies by doing the artwork in crayon.

The pf art on AP just might be the worst all time. A 4 year old could do a better job. Someone had to be fired over that artwork...I mean, right?

#612 6 years ago

I've owned a lot of Sterns over the years...they have all been incredibly reliable. My issues have really only been a ton of the Stern flipper buzzing (fairly easy to fix), my SM has some minor ghosting on a couple arrow inserts, and my LOTR registration was pretty bad (which I got a replacement pf sent to me that was slightly better but still not great, LOL). Still, Sterns are pretty rock solid. They are much more reliable than my Bally/Williams games I've owned. Granted, I haven't bought a recent Stern offering...not sure where/when the quality declined or if it is really as widespread as it seems to be, but can't deny that their games are incredibly stripped of features these days.

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