NIB ghosting inserts are the new normal? Next up - splitting cabinets and wrinkled peeling decals.
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I was told by a distributor that Stern was bringing / had brought playfield manufacturing in house, and spent a ton of money to do so - this was right around the start of the ghosted insert issue or shortly after. Any one else hear this?
Edit - I was also told either the Churchill main guy left the company, or stern hired him...... it was a while ago so don’t remember exactly
Quoted from capguntrooper:» YouTube video
Churchill play field
Ghosting inserts and cracking clear in the shooter lane and out hole. This game also sat inside my house for two weeks before being played and a play field protector was installed, untouched by pinballs. the cracked clear happened in less than 200 plays. I went on deployment and after a year of the game not being played I inspected my KISS LE to find more than a few inserts ghosting just from sitting untouched. Sorry for the poor quality of video I also forgot to show the drum insert and super ramps insert ghosting which is under a ramp. Imagine 5 years from now what the game will look like. I hope Stern can figure this issue out because I like their machines, I am just not going to buy something IMHO that should not do what they are claiming now to be normal.
glad I sold my kiss when I did - that’s crazy that a pf protector won’t even stop it.... WTF???
I do remember on my GB premium - built 2/2017 - I moved the outlanes in, and when I did, a little bit of clear kinda chipped or scraped off with the post on one side... thought it was normal considering I was yanking a threaded post out of a wood hole, but it never happened on any diamond playfields or really any other games but GB. They have definitely screwed up the clear somehow
Quoted from CaptainNeo:have you guys not been reading this thread or the other threads about ghosting
I have - guess I figured ghosting hadn't been figured out yet by stern but was either the wood playfield moving, inserts plastics changed, inserts too tight or loose, bad glue, Pf's not sanded, not allowed to cure long enough, crappy cheap different clear, poor qc, or any combination of the above. If a steel ball was to impact a compromised insert maybe the impact would cause the clear to delaminate prematurely - thus my thinking a playfield protector might insulate the insert and allow the pf to cure longer without the ball impact stress.
Quoted from someoneelse:Is the PF protector supposed to magically glue the inserts in place or change the chemical characteristics between insert and clear?
I don't get how a protector would be able to help against ghosting.
Not magic - more like a punch with a bare fist versus a punch with a 11oz glove - less impact = less damage was my thought
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