(Topic ID: 194604)

Stern NEW policy - GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?

By capguntrooper

6 years ago


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“Are Cloudy inserts, stress cracks and GHOSTING often seen on NIB pins and should that be normal?”

  • NO WAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 601 votes
    77%
  • YES, ghosting is often seen on NIB pins and is normal. 45 votes
    6%
  • I don't care I am never buying a NIB from STERN again 135 votes
    17%

(Multiple choice - 781 votes by 755 Pinsiders)

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#22 6 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

I totally agree! Losing your customer base because you have a problem putting out quality playfields is definitely less expensive for Stern.
(Feel free to call it a straw man argument, but that's the direction it sounds like you argued)

Straw Man is referenced more on this site than possibly anywhere else in the world.

#154 6 years ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

I think this gives Stern more control in what they deem a replaceable defect. I think exceptionally ghosted inserts or other major defects would be warrantied./blockquote>

What you think and what Stern states are entirely different.

#479 6 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Last time i checked we live in a country that is based on capitalism, for the most part, thank god.
I don't get what the big deal is.

The big deal for me is that I enjoy pinball and would like to purchase all of the new Stern games.

However, when the overall quality of their NIB machines is at such an abysmal level I refuse to give Stern my money. It really surprises me that they would allow the quality of their product to drop like it has.

#484 6 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

That's what I'm saying, stern may never fit your criteria again. I hope so

I love my Stern machines as well and am truly bummed.

#523 6 years ago
Quoted from sinnisterjsb:

I have decided to back out of my LE. My main problem is that I am spending $8500 for an LE. If there are ghosting issues, it will affect the resale value, or I will have to spend the time and money to repair the game. I don't feel comfortable with the issue, so I am out. Also, the more I have seen and read, the more I want to play the game first.....A novel approach, I know.

Please stop. You're making too much sense.

#605 6 years ago
Quoted from zr11990:

I have been saying for years that Gary Stern is the cheapest shyster ever and will screw you as hard as possible as long as you will bend over for it.

Assuming he is still calling the shots, you're right.

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#822 6 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Honestly if it's just one don't sweat it. If my replacement SW play field only has one I'll die a happy man

Agreed.

I believe a playfield with only one ghosted insert is about as good as you can expect from Stern these days.

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