(Topic ID: 194604)

Stern NEW policy - GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?

By capguntrooper

6 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 839 posts
  • 224 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 6 years ago by leonml
  • Topic is favorited by 21 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic poll

“Are Cloudy inserts, stress cracks and GHOSTING often seen on NIB pins and should that be normal?”

  • NO WAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 601 votes
    77%
  • YES, ghosting is often seen on NIB pins and is normal. 45 votes
    6%
  • I don't care I am never buying a NIB from STERN again 135 votes
    17%

(Multiple choice - 781 votes by 755 Pinsiders)

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

21706673_1649449475129784_409376094_o (resized).jpg
20170908_104038 (resized).jpg
1962592_334531546707152_2787885267848887757_n (resized).jpg
mic (resized).jpg
IMG_6170 (resized).JPG
Stern CYA Policy.jpg
IMG_1386 (resized).JPG
20170903_193715 (resized).jpg
20170902_233821 (resized).jpg
20170902_233758 (resized).jpg
20170902_233719 (resized).jpg
20170902_233625 (resized).jpg
IMG_6111 (resized).JPG
IMG_4215 (resized).JPG
IMG_4214 (resized).JPG
IMG_3502 (resized).JPG

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider lamprey.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

#549 6 years ago
Quoted from Spelunk71:

I'm sure the language is intentionally ambiguous. The warranty doesn't cover ghosting at all. Any playfield replacements are done at Stern's discretion/whim.

The "Warranty" is pretty clear that they don't cover the playfield (much really). I *think* they consider the playfield a wear and tear item. Much like tires on a car: if they wear out it's not the manufacturer/dealer issue to replace for free. So, if you have ghosting or other issues, it's completely up to Stern's discretion if they will do anything about it. I'm sure there are some other consumer protection "things" that go into receiving a new defective product, but I don't know what those are precisely.

Here is a quote from page 55 of the Star Wars Pro Manual:

STERN PINBALL INC LIMITED WARRANTY
Stern Pinball Inc (‘SELLER’) warrants only to the initial purchaser of its
products that the items listed below are free from defects in material
and workmanship under normal use and service for the warranty period
specified:
• Printed circuit boards (game logic): 2 months
• Dot Matrix Display boards: 9 months
No other parts of seller’s product are warranted.

1 month later
#795 6 years ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

I feel this is what the new wording "ghosting is normal" is all about. Stern are looking to protect themselves from people getting a new playfield and then immediately selling the machine. Stern are more than happy to warrant their product to genuine buyers. They are looking to protect their core business customers and good for them. We will definitely continue to buy and enjoy every manufacturers product.

Stern is trying to protect themselves form the greedy bastards that what to sell there machine and not take a bath because the playfield has ghosting? Really? You can't possible believe what you wrote, can you?

It's a CYA maneuver so they are less culpable. They don't have to do anything regarding ghosting as the playfield isn't covered under warrantee. I think it's great that they are actually replacing some playfields. That way they can be the "good guys" by replacing a part they don't even warrantee out of the goodness of their heat.

My guess is, sadly, it's jut a matter of time before they stop doing that and point to "ghosting is normal" an call it a day.

Promoted items from Pinside Marketplace and Pinside Shops!
$ 79.99
Cabinet - Armor And Blades
PinGraffix Pinside Shop
 
$ 79.99
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Lighted Pinball Mods
 
$ 36.00
Playfield - Other
Pin Monk
 
$ 5.00
Playfield - Plastics
UpKick Pinball
 
$ 50.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
arcade-cabinets.com
 
$ 9,499.00
Pinball Machine
Classic Game Rooms
 
From: $ 5.00
Cabinet - Other
Filament Printing
 
$ 110.00
Cabinet - Shooter Rods
Super Skill Shot Shop
 
From: $ 55.00
Cabinet - Armor And Blades
arcade-cabinets.com
 
11,000 (Firm)
Machine - For Sale
Nashville, TN
€ 80.00
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Pino Pinball Mods Shop
 
$ 218.00
Lighting - Backbox
Lermods
 
$ 15.00
Playfield - Other
YouBentMyWookie
 
$ 3,999.00
Pinball Machine
Classic Game Rooms
 
From: $ 55.00
Gameroom - Decorations
Pinball Photos LLC
 
$ 50.00
Playfield - Protection
Duke Pinball
 
$ 79.99
Cabinet - Armor And Blades
PinGraffix Pinside Shop
 
$ 99.99
Lighting - Other
Lighted Pinball Mods
 
From: $ 30.00
Cabinet - Other
Rocket City Pinball
 
9,250
Machine - For Sale
Alpine, CALIFORNIA
9,000 (OBO)
Machine - For Sale
Burnt Cabins, PA
$ 49.99
Cabinet - Toppers
Lighted Pinball Mods
 
$ 49.99
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Lighted Pinball Mods
 
Hey modders!
Your shop name here

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider lamprey.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

Reply

Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

Donate to Pinside

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!


This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-new-policy-ghosting-is-normalor-is-it?tu=lamprey and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.