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Stern NEW policy - GHOSTING IS NORMAL....OR IS IT?

By capguntrooper

6 years ago


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“Are Cloudy inserts, stress cracks and GHOSTING often seen on NIB pins and should that be normal?”

  • NO WAY ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 601 votes
    77%
  • YES, ghosting is often seen on NIB pins and is normal. 45 votes
    6%
  • I don't care I am never buying a NIB from STERN again 135 votes
    17%

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#151 6 years ago

I'm amazed that Stern can keep digging themselves further into a deep hole. This market is theirs to lose. A company which employs that much expertise, experience and talent should completely close out the competition. It's not hard for them. Stern knows what's required.

Yet they keep kicking home goals, and leaving the door wide open. To the point many of their loyal customers are desperately looking for alternatives. They really don't want to buy from Stern.

Case in point: Dialed In and Total Annihilation. Don't get me wrong, both are fantastic games, and I have/will order both. But those games should be dead on arrival up against Star Wars.

But with Star Wars, Stern has taken the greatest theme of all time, stripped it back so much that it no longer represents its own theme, then introduces some bullshit legal caveats on the FRONT PAGE of the Star Wars manual, that are the equivalent of saying "we don't give a f*ck about pinball or our customers". On the FRONT PAGE of the biggest license Stern has had in the last decade - or ever.

So now, I cancel my Star Wars LE order, and can't wait to receive my DI and TNA. Two games whose themes I could care less about. One a simple layout about nuclear reactors (!) with no ramps, by a designer I'd never heard of until a few months ago, and the other a game about freakin' cell phones that takes selfies of me when I'm playing (!). These games should not stand a chance against Stern and Star Wars. Yet I can't wait!!

The game is Sterns to lose and they have left the door so wide open it's debatable whether they can close it again. Or more likely they couldn't be bothered closing it.

#257 6 years ago
Quoted from mnpinball:

My Ghostbusters premium with 80 plays .
The shooter lane clear was actually chipping and delaminating as well as the ghosting inserts.
No glue or inserts in the shooter lane Neo

I've never understood why cliffy's are not installed on shooter lanes in the factory. They've started putting them on some scoops, but shooter lanes cop allot more abuse.

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#268 6 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

"Ghosting".......in fact, it looks cool

Wait.... what?

I think you've written the new introduction for Sterns' next operating manual.

#498 6 years ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

Thank you very much for posting some very interesting fact. I find that extremely informative and very helpful. I really like dealing with all the people at Stern too. I have even proposed buying a spare playfield for each machine we purchase for my own peace of mind and our distro laughed and said there is no need to do that. I am happy with the way our Stern Distro looks after us.

I feel sorry for the distributors in all this. Our local distributors do a fantastic job and go above and beyond to look after their customers, but this is completely out of their control.

#538 6 years ago
Quoted from Spelunk71:

I'm sure the language is intentionally ambiguous. The warranty doesn't cover ghosting at all. Any playfield replacements are done at Stern's discretion/whim.

Exactly, the Gary Stern letter is bullsh*t.

#539 6 years ago
Quoted from Phbooms:

its real i got a kit and it works great if you are handy with a palm sander, many grades of sandpaper and alot of waiting between coats. Heres my old GB before and after picture.

Wow, can you come over and clear some of my games?

#663 6 years ago
Quoted from Trekkie1978:

I'm 3 for 3 in getting approvals for playfield replacements.
As of now, I've only swapped 1 playfield. At least the next 2 are SPIKE games...will be a hell of a lot easier.

Wow.

And this is "normal"!

And you're still buying?

#669 6 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Well...they DID take care of him. I've been VERY lucky with my GOT playfield. But if I said I wasn't nervous about SWLE, I'd be lying.

Yeh, they looked after me on GB also, but that was severe chipping in inserts after ghosting. And I appreciate they did. But 3 games!! I'd be sick of it.

And there's clearly something wrong. You can't just define it as normal and ignore it.

My feeling is Stern are just buying time until they figure out what's going on. They've changed the process (new supplier/in house production), it hasn't been as easy as they thought, but they can't stop the whole production line until they work it out.

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