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I'd appreciate a step up on quality instead of more gimmicky add ons. Are these made of plastic? Maybe the lighter weight will keep their cabinets from splitting.
Quoted from thundergod76:Are these made of plastic?
I heard from an unreliable source that they were stained glass, but I'm not buying it. My money's on plastic.
did Stern get the idea from here?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/coloured-and-tinted-aprons
Quoted from jkashani:Man Stern needs to concentrate on quality control and code not this stuff.
I seriously doubt their coders or the QA people were pulled to create these.
Kaiserslautern
I love it. It makes it a lot easier to have a view of chipping clear coat whre the balls roll into the trunk. Perfect add-on. Must have.
Do they really have the time to create things like this instead of finding and erasing their quality issues?
I am very impressed 
All the colors are "candy". Hah.
I bet someone will come up with some cool mods with these. I'm interested for homebrew, kinda pricey though.
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I'll post this again since it seems people aren't reading all the entries in this thread.
I seriously doubt their coders or the QA people were pulled to create these.
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No, not everyone, but a very loud minority on Pinside for sure.
These are the same as what Stern put on their games a few years ago I think. My Refinery Met Pro is # 8 has a red one on with the pebble surface on the underside, it was one of the options that they offered. Stern only had red available back then.
Sydney, Oz
Now that's an interesting idea. Here is my green translucent on GBLE..
Added over 7 years ago: Thanks extendo for the great video.
Quoted from Axl:did Stern get the idea from here?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/coloured-and-tinted-aprons
Nah, there was a transparent red apron on some fancy version of one of the earlier games. I snagged one for my Ironman ages ago, long before TimeBandit stepped in to fill the desire for more.
Quoted from epthegeek:Nah, there was a transparent red apron on some fancy version of one of the earlier games. I snagged one for my Ironman ages ago, long before TimeBandit stepped in to fill the desire for more.
Yeah, I was always surprised they kept such a tight rein on the supply of the red ones. Well, I'm probably out of business with these now, lol, but maybe I can take credit for at least making them make them available. 
Quoted from TimeBandit:Well, I'm probably out of business with these now
Just sell them at a better price (if you can) or differentiate your product somehow.
Quoted from TimeBandit:. Well, I'm probably out of business with these now,
Go where they don't. Bally, Williams, Gottlieb.
Was kinda sh1tty of them tho.
Just as an aside. Mine are about to effectively get cheaper as I will be fitting the lift panels by default and the price will remain the same.
Man, I don't really read the new Stern threads anymore, they haven't made a game since Metallica I'm really interested in, I didn't realize the hostility levels were so high. Are they fucking up that badly?
I can remember when this thread would have been more positive...
Quoted from Aurich:Man, I don't really read the new Stern threads anymore, they haven't made a game since Metallica I'm really interested in, I didn't realize the hostility levels were so high. Are they fucking up that badly?
I can remember when this thread would have been more positive...
You should take a tour. Ghosting playfields, splitting cabinets. Hostility is high because of quality issues... and the purge / not purge, but that is another matter.
Quoted from DaveH:You should take a tour. Ghosting playfields, splitting cabinets. Hostility is high because of quality issues... and the purge / not purge, but that is another matter.
Yikes. Are playfields STILL ghosting? I've seen some cab complaints about splitting at the corners I guess that's a thing now too? Oh pinball.
Time Bandit's aprons are sweet! I put one in my xmen and love it, he was great to work with too.
http://redshiftled.com.au/products.php
Quoted from Aurich:Man, I don't really read the new Stern threads anymore, they haven't made a game since Metallica I'm really interested in, I didn't realize the hostility levels were so high. Are they fucking up that badly?
I can remember when this thread would have been more positive...
I think some people's frustrations with Stern right now are due to paying record NIB prices and not receiving a high quality product in return. A lot of games going out are fine but there's more then usual that are not. Its hard to stomach $5k-$15k for a pinball machine of all things but when there's playfield issues, cabinet issues, orbit issues, code issues, etc and it just all becomes very frustrating. Seeing official mods for items that many believe should come with a NIB game in the first place doesn't help either.
People wouldn't mind paying the high prices as much as long as quality remained high. With prices going up there's no reason for Stern to be cutting corners on either cabinet quality, playfield quality or code support. Same goes for all manufactures who may attempt to pull the same stuff.
Warrington
$30 now $100, yeah TimeBandit you have all my future apron business buddy, I haven't seen one of your aprons in person but I'm sure they are of a higher quality plus better variety of colours, win win. Stern can go sit on a stick!
Quoted from Aurich:Yikes. Are playfields STILL ghosting?
No, they're not.
The people that are the first to jump into any un-releated thread and bitch as loudly as possible about Stern are rarely ever the ones affected by an issue.
Pinside is a mirror to society as a whole. Some people just like to get as many digs in as possible. You'll find it in any forum about any topic.
Most companies try to make something cheaper - cost cutting is just part of their job. I don't mind if the product still
performs adequately but in the case of the Stern cabinets they do not hold up under normal use or transportation. They need to fix this and I think they will in time. They did offer new playfields in the ghosting issue to some.
Quoted from Zitt:Go where they don't. Bally, Williams, Gottlieb.
Was kinda sh1tty of them tho.
Stern is nothing but shitty
The price is a real issue. Metal aprons go for under $60 and plastic ones are usually under $50. Asking $100 for these is totally out of line with normal pricing. There's trying to make a healthy margin and then there's gouging. This is the latter. If they were outfitted with some lighting effects, had some sort of extra utility, or they were somehow special, people would be a bit more tolerant and maybe even excited.
There has been a shift in culture at Stern. Yes, they still make the best games and are the most reliable when it comes to release schedule and timelines, but man, they seriously seem to care less and less about being a good member of the community than they used to.
A business is not there to be a good member of the community, they are there to make money. Sometimes giving a little back brings in more business and more money. Stern and Gary Stern himself has proven that they don't give a rats ass about their product or you.
Sorry but that is my view on the whole thing.
If they don't sell these at $99, they will lower the price. Standard business practices.
Some people act like Stern stabbed their Mother.
Quoted from Sinestro:Some people act like Stern stabbed their Mother.
And some here would still give them a pass for that...
Quoted from Sinestro:If they don't sell these at $99, they will lower the price. Standard business practices.
Some people act like Stern stabbed their Mother.
Seems pretty simple. Buy or don't.
Whining about it makes no sense. Buy from Time bandit
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