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Stern Led Zeppelin v.s. JJP Guns N' Roses

By pinmister

4 years ago


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“Stern Led Zeppelin or JJP Guns N' Roses?”

  • I am interested in a Stern Led Zeppelin 177 votes
    21%
  • I am interested in a JJP Guns N' Roses 300 votes
    36%
  • I am interested in both 131 votes
    16%
  • Neither-not interested 152 votes
    18%
  • I love Philly Cheesesteaks 68 votes
    8%

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#1625 3 years ago

I don’t buy JJP LE because they are very limited (because they’re not). If I wanted the very limited I’d get a CE. I buy the LE because of the feature set.

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But the issue is, when a person buys an LE they do it for the reason of being very limited. What happened with all the Batman SLE and LE’s at those low numbers? They really went up in value. A friend of mine here in Oz bought an SLE for $18k and sold it after a year or two for $36k, that is what very low numbers will do in the market place. 5,000 LEs are not worth the high price tag. Make it a premium and sell it for $2500 less like the competition does. Because in reality, other than the name LE, it is not really limited at 5k availability. So do what the competition does and call it a Premium. (I know people think and say it has more in it and it does, but not $2500 more plastics and coils in it.)
I know people say the JJP SE is the premium, but it’s really a pro. A better pro yes, but still a pro and also should be lowered in price. JJP is a very small company, trying to gain market share, but their marketing strategy is quite mixed up and will never be able to take on Stern unless they do what the very large competition does and get what some feel as a better product more inline price wise and numbers wise too. Pinball is a very small market, with very small numbers being sold worldwide, because of huge price tags on each offering for any and all companies.
R&M for $10k? Unbelievable pricing, yet even better than JJP, because it truly is a limited machine at only 750 machines. HUO prices will hold much better because of much smaller numbers. History bears what I’ve said above as the way it is in pinball. Only stating what history has shown us. It’s the law of supply and demand.

#1626 3 years ago
Quoted from snaroff:

I'm not a fan of JJP's extra 100+ lbs. when compared with Sterns. The extra weight makes it impractical to move upstairs.

My escalera does not notice the difference.

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