Good luck playing a modern Steve Ritchie pin high.

Exactly haha.
To be fair you won’t even press the start button if you play GNR high. “Whoa the lights, whoa the colors. Whoa...the lights and the colors.”

Sometimes wish I was 20 again so I can just sit down and trip on GNR all night. Instead, I have to play it

GNR really is in another league. It’s unfair for it to even be in any vs. thread. Maybe Zep vs Maiden or Zep vs Aerosmith would be more appropriate. Apples vs apples - not apples vs steak and lobster.

My guess is they planned to sell the light show as a $499 add on (Ala STH). Then, they saw GNR and were like fuuuuuuuudge....... Alright boys, scrap the scam, let’s throw in the light show this time around.

If you’re timing out modes, not scoring well, and short cutting your way through the game, why would your reward be a giant scoring wizard mode? You may want to learn more about the game (I’m 200 plays in and still learning new stuff), but sounds like it might be too late for that now.

sorry, didn’t mean to strike a nerve. Might be best if you just move on.

From my understanding (and I’m still learning the game), but if you do good before a song (i.e. boosters and locks, your reward is a high song level = higher scoring). If you do well in a song, your album level will be high = higher scoring in album mode. So just a guess here but All that must add up to your final scoring in the wizard mode. Sounds like great programming to me.

That said, I do agree that the game needs more polish, much more. But it’s been out for 2 months, it takes stern a year or more to get code completed on games, why do they get a pass and not JJP? And JJP code after 2 months is typically way deeper than most sterns, so there’s that too. Gotta give these guys time to bake the code and rules - both stern and JJP.

I own 3 sterns. They sit right next to GNR. GNR is in another realm than them. But it’s all good, pinball is fun! It’s just that GNR is on another level of fun

From my understanding, stern put that EULA in place to cover their own ass. Not to go after streamers.

Dude, it’s pretty sweet; especially when you start learning the patches, songs, band frenzy, power chords, etc... The album modes do need some polish for sure but the civil war and thirst for carnage modes are fun - the scoring for those probably needs tweaking, but with the right patches and album score you can get a ton of points in a short period of time but it is a very risky approach.

I said this in the owners thread, but I basically had a 3-4 week honeymoon with JP2 just before getting GNR and I’m at that same 3-4 week period with GNR’s honeymoon now and it just smokes JP2 in the fun/Adrenalin/breadth factor. And JP2 is no joke, amazing game in itself.

All in all though, I honestly don’t know how I feel about the GNRSE (haven’t played one) and I almost swapped my LE for the SE, but now having the LE, I could not live without that upper playfield, I think it’s one of the best upper playfield in pinball - for both the play, and the implementation of it. EDIT: however, they do need to code in some sound effects for the lock switch! That does irritate me. But hey, game is only 2-3 into production, I’m sure more code is coming - hoping for that switch to be coded in haha.

I don’t typically like upper playfields (for the most part) so you might not like this one hahaha!

I do like the WOZ castle upper playfield, but like most upper playfields, it becomes a grind. Love the munchkin upper playfield because it’s quick and simple. I’m actually a big fan of FGY stewie playfield, but again - can be grinding. What I love about GNR’s is it’s quick, fast, non-grinding, you can lock balls without even playing the upper playfield and there’s 4 different strategies to do with the upper playfield (excluding song modes where it comes down to power chord rules).

Yea don’t honestly know. Time will tell I guess. I imagine it would hurt them a lot if they tried to shut down people from streaming their games. But I think there’s another thread for that so that’s all say about it here.

Man, what a troll! ..but I’ll bite. That fat axl you speak of, is in better shape than most pinsiders, and probably you; In fact he’s in better shape than most middle aged Americans. The reason you all think he’s fat is because you keep comparing him to heroin-meth’d out crack Axl lol. As for the pins, yea - no comparison is right, GNR is leagues beyond anything stern will do in this lifetime (pun intended).

Oh and Led Zeppelin? Really, you want to support a band that made it’s living and stardom on ripping off other peoples music? Looks like Stern tried to take a page out of Led Zeppelin’s book as well and rip off JJP on the side light rails.....swing and a miss. Enjoy your licensed hindered, simplistic, sparse, overpriced Zep pin.

As for my non-troll response and in all seriousness. I hope you guys get the blinders pulled off you someday, doesn’t have to be now, enjoy your troll posts, but one day I hope you see the light as i have. Peace.

And this is the problem with pinball and vs. threads. If you think the highlight of GNR is Live and Let die, you obviously haven't experienced the game. So I’ll refer back to my previous comment and say, i hope one day the blinders are taken off.

I’m gonna bail this thread for awhile as I’ve said what I wanted to say and can leave it at that (unlike some - not referring to you @psw757). Peace out.