Quoted from Hazoff:

Worst music in human history has to be right now. Try to deny it, go ahead.

Quoted from BallyKISS1978:Not a fan of Iron Maiden and grew up in the 70’s and 80’s. But I loved the IM pin. If I was a bigger fan of IM the pin would be in my living room.
Big Zeppelin fan since I was a kid, but have reservations on it. Maiden albums have killer art work that translates perfectly to a pin and anything else, Zeppelin’s art work not so much and kinda bland.
Worried if Zeppelins music is hard enough for a pin? I know they are not soft rock and do have some great songs like Rock n Roll, Black Dog, and Misty Mountain Hop that rock, but are they are enough to get the heart pumping playing a pin?
Would love to see a Motley Crue pin or a 80’s metal band compilation pin with Twisted Sister, Accept, Sabbath, Slayer, Quiet Riot, Crue, Anthrax, Motörhead, ect. Licensing nightmare but one can dream.

Quoted from TheLaw:

I guess 4 flippers, drops, & spinners don't cut it anymore.

Quoted from Hazoff:

Stripped down PF? never heard that before.
The music. A Zeppelin fan doesn't like this. Interesting.

Quoted from BallyKISS1978:

typical fan boy response. Many bands started in the 70’s and carried over into the 80’s and Sabbath is a band that did and I like some of their music. But Sabbath wishes they had Zeppelin’s success especially after Ozzy left them. Zeppelin is still popular even though they broke up in the 80’s after Bonham died and they still are making money and apparently more money to be made since they are making a Zep pin and not a Sabbath one.
Regardless who is the better song writer, Zeppelin will always be above Sabbath too many people. Led Zeppelin far outsells Black Sabbath, and almost any other band in history, with 200 million records sold worldwide. ... Black Sabbath, in comparison, has sold 80 million records worldwide, throughout their 49 year career. Not bad for a band who apparently sucks at writing music and we’re together from only 1968 to 1980..

Quoted from o-din:

It's what happens when 80s kids suddenly become experts on the 60s and 70s.

Quoted from o-din:

You mean, they didn't have this hanging on their bedroom wall like we did?[quoted image]

Quoted from beelzeboob:

I'm sure Page and Plant lost sleep wishing they had written Fairies Wear Boots.

Quoted from PinFever:

if you like Zep you most likely like Sabbath and to pick a tune from either and say its the best is like picking up flyshit out of pepper on white paper with boxing gloves on..

Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:

Steve Ritchie vs. Eric Meunier? I'll take Eric, sight unseen.

Quoted from Hazoff:

u thought wrong, we are very polite and yeah on the surface quite peaceful. But don't push, look at our national sport, we smash each and occasionally beat the shit out of each other.

Quoted from Hazoff:

Need to get rid of Rock n Roll. God damn I hate that song.

Quoted from Dr-pin:

Seems there is no competiton.
Jjp won by default.
Stern with another generic no soul effort.

Quoted from BallPin:

hitting a spinner isn't exactly my idea of cool factor

Quoted from BallPin:

GnR has the best spinners on any music pin, so if it's spinner you like then GnR with another "W".

Quoted from romulusx:

I realize the restraints the property holders placed on them,but like some many art knowledgeable folks have already stated here they did a crap job using what was given them to work with!

Quoted from thechakapakuni:

Name a barren pinball game you’d buy for $8K let alone $10k. This less is more doesn’t really hold water. I have fun playing my $950 1979 Genie, and at $950 it’s under priced. Nobody disagrees that toys and levels don’t make a great pin. But to say those take away from flow or a pins value is just silly.
IJTPA is thiccc, double stacked, and flows and why it’s worth more than most new pins today. How about we just agree that pins with more included in them are more expensive to make and therefore we expect them to cost more. If a pin is a street level pin and doesn’t include a lot of stuff, we expect them to be less expensive because they were cheaper to make. It’s basic accounting here. it could have the greatest code in the world and that’s not going to add up to a $10k pin if it’s barren. LZ is a $6500 pin, $7K tops even if it has AFM fun & best code ever.
If you’re an LZ fan and you have $20k laying around, you’ll pay $20K. Doesn’t mean it’s worth it to the rest of the pinball world

Quoted from BallyKISS1978:

I have not been lucky enough to play a GNR sadly. First off I am a huge LZ fan. My wife and I got to play a LZ pro on Thursday. I kept my final opinion till I played one. Was not a fan of the art work but in person I definitely like the playfield much more in person. Only gripe I have are the sling shots. Not at all horrible, but they should have put the hermit or something else there.
I really liked the cabinet art in person on the pro. I definitely prefer it to the premium as of now. Sucks that the art blades and lights are not on the pro. The removable slots on the sides and plain black definitely not all that great looking next to the playfield art.
The music unfortunately was not turned up all that loud at all so can’t really give an opinion on the quality of the tracks. The sound effects when you hit the targets and all really sounded awesome and I loved it. Definitely a surprise for me in person.
Didn’t really get to see the animations while playing and same when my wife was. I was watching her play. I did like the song select screen like a jukebox. The call outs were good but not great. Bland British accent call outs but I watch a lot of BBC so not horrible and I still liked it.
On the pro, the 3rd flipper kinda seems useless to me. Really didn’t add much to the game for me. Sucks the ramp on the premium was removed. Should have been on the pro also.
I had a fair amount of SDTM when launching the ball with the button on the lockdown bar. Had a few also when the ball didn’t have enough power to go up the middle ramp.
It definitely played smooth, not as smooth as butter like EHOH though. The open playfield did not bother me at all like my initial impressions. I loved the flow of the game and the SR openness I worried about was no longer an issue for me, and I have BKSOR premium and I love it.
I didn’t get many long ball playing times unfortunately and that sucks when it’s a buck a game. But first time playing it and I am far from a pro and didn’t have my aim dialed in since I only played it 6 times.
Hitting Icarus was not all that satisfying for me but liked the sound effect when you hit it. Also wish the zeppelin was a physical lock instead of a virtual one, but hitting the ramp to get it was still fun to hit, but not as fun as locking it in the catapult on BKSOR.
At this point I am definitely leaning more to getting LZ, but still not leaning towards NIB and not sure if premium is worth the extra cost since I didn’t get to play one and I prefer the artwork on the pro. And will wait and see what stern does for the EM spinner issue.
I really wanted to love this pin, but at this point I really like it. Not sure if I would have had some buyers remorse TBH if I bought NIB. Possibly some if I am to be honest because I had higher expectations prior to reveal.
I will most likely pick one up used at some point. But for now my deposit for EHOH is going nowhere unless Stern cancels or Godzilla is announced and blows me away.
Just my opinion and for me I give LZ a 7/10 at this point. Not perfect, but pretty good.
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