I'll give you some credit; you took an epic schooling better than most would have!

Many people would have just scrunched up their face and yelled into the internet this is all wrong; those are alternate facts! Why are people so mean etc...

Fair; I don't think that anybody should be "hating" LZ at this point; how many people have actually played it enough to even form an educated opinion? People can be unimpressed all they want though.

And if you said "make room in your collection, buy one of the music themed pins from this year" it would be GnR for me (from what I have seen so far). Then LZ, then Heavy Metal. Others are free to spend nearly as much as a GnR on a Heavy Metal; if/when they do, I hope they enjoy it as much as I would enjoy a GnR.

Having this many choices is crazy compared to where the hobby was 10-20 years ago.

Given how many buyers are sheep in this hobby (tell me what game to by next threads etc.) having someone come in and correct factual inaccuracies (like overstating the number of flippers on LZ by "only" 100%) seems helpful.

Next thing LZ would "have 6 flippers and a billion shots, and 12 secret songs that some Stern insider said would be unlocked at the next Great Conjunction...

I mean its not like we are all easily swayed by hype, but most of us are most of the time...

Uh, you realize that you can set the individual coil strength for JJP games? I have not had any games where I was sitting there saying "dang, my flippers are too slow".

Hmm.... there is one kernel of truth on that. That vehicle is much more likely to be able to go a few km without needing a stupid expensive service than a Lambo.

Just like a LZ is likely to need fewer adjustments to play well than a GNR. Way more simple design; comparatively like a pedal powered car to a Lambo

For a minimal price difference, though I respect the pedal powered version, I would still take the lambo if I was cross shopping both...

Slow in what way; e.g. from initially pressing the button to activation? If that is your gripe you can gap the cabinet flipper switches differently.

This whole thing reminds me of the "scandal" when people thought the remade MM's had some flipper delay compared to the original. There was stress, people gnashing their teeth, pearls were even clutched... people with the new games swore theirs were defective... then someone had the bright idea (and the resources) to actually measure the flipper response on both games.

Surprise surprise, it was all in people's heads. Then people went on to complain about the next likely made up thing...

I just explained why this "common complaint so it must be true" thing is extremely flawed in general, but especially when it comes to hyper emotional pinballers... as usual it is hard to convince someone when they have decided to make up their mind on it. I am open to other evidence, but my JJP games seem fine. If anything, my JP flippers are overpowered even after dialing them down. Maybe some people are only satisfied when the flippers are so strong that airballs are the norm? Explains the cratered playfields more...

Blue dog is blue! My daughter had a kids book with that art; I did not know it was well known enough to be collected like that!

I wouldn't say you are epicly trashing Cary Hardy here, but either you genuinely clueless about him and couldn't be arsed to do even a google search, or you are not exactly Mr. Positive yourself. Clueless or a meanie, which is it my man?

I don't have either on order, but admit if I had to pick one to check out it would be GNR. I am always open to being wrong; to me LZ seems like a decent Stern effort from ~2009. Iron Man Era. And I love Iron Man, I have owned one since 2010. But its 2021, it is okay to want something fresher tasting .

And nice that there are several options; heck as I noted previously there will be a few buyers for whom Heavy Metal is the right choice.