Quoted from Tsskinne:Well that is disappointing, oh well.
Only if it wasn't going to be that crazy pricing structure.
Quoted from Tsskinne:Well that is disappointing, oh well.
Only if it wasn't going to be that crazy pricing structure.
I say buy both!!!!!
I grew up listening to Led Zeppelin with my wife and buddies and I’m sure it’s the same for gnr fans. It’s all very subjective.
This is an amazing time to be in this hobby.
I love to see the pinball companies compete against one another for our money because ultimately it makes them better at their individual craft and giving us kick ass machines.
Now we just need a vaccine so we can get together and party more!
Quoted from Pickle:Instead we get Aerosmith with shitty animations. Oh....Metallica has a HUGE catalog of songs. Why are we just limited to a few? CHEAP that is why.
Hey now, you’re talking about 2 of my favorite pins. I happen to LOVE the graphics on Aerosmith. And it’s easy to change the songs out on MET if you want to - they aren’t on the inserts like with Aerosmith. In terms of cost, MET + AS = GNR LE. While I freakin’ love the new GNRLE (just played it today), I wouldn’t trade AS and MET for one.
I can’t see Led standing a chance against GnR at this point. Both are mega favourite bands,
But JJP set the bar high.
Quoted from Pinball-NJA:I can’t see Led standing a chance against GnR at this point.
Wow.
R u really that confused when it comes to music. GnR is no where close to the same popularity as Led Zeppelin. Now GnR may outsell it but Zeppelin and Stern do not need to out sell anything.
Quoted from Hazoff:Wow.
R u really that confused when it comes to music. GnR is no where close to the same popularity as Led Zeppelin. Now GnR may outsell it but Zeppelin and Stern do not need to out sell anything.
I know of not one led zeppelin song. Zero. Before my time I guess.
Quoted from Doctor6:I know of not one led zeppelin song. Zero. Before my time I guess.
I think you are in the norm. If you stopped 100 people on the street and ask them to name 3 zep songs and 3 GNR songs I think GNR wins by landslide. I still have some zep albums to this day and they where cool and all but GNR rocks.
Quoted from Doctor6:I know of not one led zeppelin song. Zero. Before my time I guess.
What?
they were before my time as well but it was impossible to avoid not sure how u managed that unless of course u one of those techno/dance type fellas. Ur very lucky cause that's means u get to discover them.
Quoted from woody76:If you stopped 100 people on the street and ask them to name 3 zep songs and 3 GNR songs I think GNR wins by landslide.
I'm I in the Twilight zone here?
Most GnR fans probably enjoy Zeppelin. If u a big GnR fan and never heard of Zeppelin then I am in the Twilight Zone.
Quoted from Hazoff:I'm I in the Twilight zone here?
Most GnR fans probably enjoy Zeppelin. If u a big GnR fan and never heard of Zeppelin then I am in the Twilight Zone.
Yeah no shit, pretty comical. It would be like saying you never heard of the Beatles, the Stones and I’ll even say it, never heard of GNR.
Quoted from Hazoff:I'm I in the Twilight zone here?
Most GnR fans probably enjoy Zeppelin. If u a big GnR fan and never heard of Zeppelin then I am in the Twilight Zone.
I did not say people have not heard of zep, but it was about naming songs of each band. The other guys comment was about not being able to name one song and I think he is probably in the norm. Could also be a generational issues, 70's vs 80's
Quoted from woody76:I did not say people have not heard of zep, but it was about naming songs of each band.
Yeah but its the same thing. 3 songs? come on
Jesus I can name 3 Cardi B songs......................wait no I can't. I don't even know one.
Quoted from swampfire:Hey now, you’re talking about 2 of my favorite pins. I happen to LOVE the graphics on Aerosmith. And it’s easy to change the songs out on MET if you want to - they aren’t on the inserts like with Aerosmith. In terms of cost, MET + AS = GNR LE. While I freakin’ love the new GNRLE (just played it today), I wouldn’t trade AS and MET for one.
For us in the hobby that know of Pinball browser yes we can change songs. But that is work and the average person is not gonna mess with all that. The point is if you make a music pin quit making all the songs mode based and add a larger catalog of songs. Aerosmith is a fun pin. But the animations on the pin just don’t pop for me. I get the display at the time was new for Stern so they were figuring things out and are getting better with it.
And agree you can almost get the premium of MET + AS for the Cost of GnR CE. Can get the pros for just a little more than cost of the LE.
But Stern will do their thing with LZ. They will sell plenty of them as it’s a theme many people have wanted for years. Can’t wait to see it.
Beatles, Stones and AC/DC are three of the six most popular rock bands ever. That leaves Led Zeppelin, Queen and Pink Floyd yet to go!
Quoted from DrJoe:If Stern puts 600 LEDs in LZ, does that automatically make it a good game?
For some people, and apparently its very innovative.
Quoted from John_I:Beatles, Stones and AC/DC are three of the six most popular rock bands ever. That leaves Led Zeppelin, Queen and Pink Floyd yet to go!
They didn't really do The Beatles justice, though...let's be honest. They deserve a full fledged new game.
Quoted from beelzeboob:They didn't really do The Beatles justice, though...let's be honest. They deserve a full fledged new game.
I agree. The Beatles as a brand is strong enough to have a stand alone game and not a re-theme.
Don’t know if that was an experiment by Stern to do a re-theme or if it came down to licensing/assets they could get. Perhaps the licensing was restrictive and a re-theme was the best or most cost effective option. Didn’t matter to Stern as they priced it to collectors and sold them all I am sure.
And it may have been an experiment. Remember a while back Stern alluded to they could vault ANY game...a lot of people started posting they would buy new classic Sterns if priced right. Maybe it was a chance to test the market on that possibility.
I think mode based by album seems reasonable. Include the entire catalog. Plenty of sound clips, etc. I'm almost thinking like Time Machine like.
Have the ability to temporarily remove songs you don't care for.
As to GNR vs LZ pinball,,, we'll have to wait and see. Music wise? I like both but LZ has the Blues background I can really appreciate (albeit stolen in some cases they really laid down some nasty tracks and renewed a classic sound).
Much like ranking drummers/guitarist/etc is useless,we must accept each band as their own. Certain things appeal to some and not others.
No artwork for LZ? Album wise perhaps, but I wouldn't let that deter me from original artwork if it works well.
Toys/considerations:
Stairway
Blimp
Gong
Swan Song
Symbols
GNR lightshow seems top notch, and I hope the game is great, but that alone won't hold people for long, so let's hope it's fun too.
Stern I'm certain isn't worried about which machine will be better, only that theirs sells well. I believe they have learned from The Beatles fiasco.
I love Zeppelin!!! My buddies and me grew up with their music.we cried when Bonham died and whey buddy Billy’s girlfriend died we played Over the hills and far away in my 70 Chevy van on the way to the funeral.But getting back on track I can’t wrap my mind around Led Zep pinball?
Quoted from Pickle:Instead we get Aerosmith with shitty animations. Aerosmith is a fun pin. But the animations on the pin just don’t pop for me. I get the display at the time was new for Stern so they were figuring things out and are getting better with it.
Yeah. I fixed that on my Aerosmith. Full fuckin' video assets now, no cartoons!
Quoted from Hazoff:Yeah but its the same thing. 3 songs? come on
Jesus I can name 3 Cardi B songs......................wait no I can't. I don't even know one.
I could name one, WAP and it makes me want to barf...
Quoted from Edster:I could name one, WAP and it makes me want to barf...
The fact that song become a hit is very sad. I like HipHop it has its place but it should never be the most popular form of music. That WAP song sucks.
Quoted from PoMC:Yeah. I fixed that on my Aerosmith. Full fuckin' video assets now, no cartoons!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mXnQKut3rndnZB5t6
Nice job!!! Looks great. No reason Stern should not have had real band video to begin with.
Quoted from Pickle:No reason Stern should not have had real band video to begin with.
It can go both ways. The fact there was no video/pics of the band helped me a ton in buying IMDN & Met. If you're not a fan of the band, you might not wantto see the band; and more than that it's just lazy.
I listen to Aerosmith on the radio for a long time, they have some good music. I don;t need to see Tyler and his scarves dancing around.
Quoted from Hazoff:The fact that song become a hit is very sad. I like HipHop it has its place but it should never be the most popular form of music. That WAP song sucks.
100%
Saw the video on late night and it was just gross.
Back to GnR. I hope Stern releases Zep soon so I can make a decision. Planning to get one of the two. I kinda prefer the less hyped option.
Quoted from TheLaw:It can go both ways. The fact there was no video/pics of the band helped me a ton in buying IMDN & Met. If you're not a fan of the band, you might not wantto see the band; and more than that it's just lazy.
I listen to Aerosmith on the radio for a long time, they have some good music. I don;t need to see Tyler and his scarves dancing around.
You have a good point too. There are some things you just don’t want to see. I don’t need to see full videos. But a few clips. Interesting fan shots, guitar solos, just neat clips that fit. Could be tough because some bands are not great live/visually.
Quoted from Pickle:You have a good point too.
Yeah I totally get the otehr side when you love the band you're wondering "why the hell are they not showing me Aerosmith in an Aerosmith machine?!"
Quoted from romulusx:I love Zeppelin!!! My buddies and me grew up with their music.we cried when Bonham died and whey buddy Billy’s girlfriend died we played Over the hills and far away in my 70 Chevy van on the way to the funeral.But getting back on track I can’t wrap my mind around Led Zep pinball?
The fish LOL! the glory days of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. LZ does have a ton of things that could be in this pin. Though the albums don’t have the best artwork but we all recognize them and they are pretty iconic for the band. Can’t wait to see what direction they go with the art package.
Quoted from John_I:Beatles, Stones and AC/DC are three of the six most popular rock bands ever. That leaves Led Zeppelin, Queen and Pink Floyd yet to go!
I would take Beatles, Stones, & AC/DC over Led Zep,Queen and PF any day.
Quoted from Hazoff:I'm I in the Twilight zone here?
Most GnR fans probably enjoy Zeppelin. If u a big GnR fan and never heard of Zeppelin then I am in the Twilight Zone.
Both games will be a hit that’s for sure. I am a bigger GNR fan at my age, sure not my top 5 favorite but always enjoyed them. I really never liked more than a handful of songs by Led Zep and always thought they did not last long enough for me and Led Zep lV album my favorite. I will take Black Sabbath over Led Zep.
Quoted from RayGun:Wrap it brother - it can be EPIC. Live concert footage with matching live music on the lcd, I'd say put another lcd of live btw/ the flippers, matched crowd noise to game play w/ lift as you get ta killin it, f'n lights, a fish, increase the volume as you kick ass thru, shake it - turn on, tune in, & drop out
I don’t know why but that reminded me of the night me and a girl were supposed to go see The Wiz movie with Michael Jackson.I made a fake phone call and informed her the movie was sold out (liar)I took her to see The Song Remains the same
We’re fell in love and I married her!
I played g n r le, honest opinion, its just ok. Long ball times, way to easy to get extra balls, slings and shooter rod too soft. Plays 'light' like other jjp games. Not sure concert video adds anything. I think led zeppelin could be better.
Quoted from zaki:I played g n r le, honest opinion, its just ok. Long ball times, way to easy to get extra balls, slings and shooter rod too soft. Plays 'light' like other jjp games. Not sure concert video adds anything. I think led zeppelin could be better.
What a shock!
Quoted from zaki:I played g n r le, honest opinion, its just ok. Long ball times, way to easy to get extra balls, slings and shooter rod too soft. Plays 'light' like other jjp games. Not sure concert video adds anything. I think led zeppelin could be better.
Not having played GnR but watched videos where people were walking away didn’t know the ball was saved one guy did it like 3 times on one game.
I’ll say tho things like ball save timer and extra ball and add a ball can be adjusted in menu.
I’m thinking about getting a SE without the upper PF the ball shouldn’t stop as often and may flow better and faster. Imo.
I don’t know why but that reminded me of the night me and a girl were supposed to go see The Wiz movie with Michael Jackson.I made a fake phone call and informed her the movie was sold out (liar)I took her to see The Song Remains the same
We’re fell in love and I married her!</blockquote Ha . Dude... ha, my kinda guy. F'n stron sumB. Make it happen. I'd buy your beer all night long and never tell a soul incl you as to why after hearin that.
Typically Stern does what a pin every 90-120 days for a new release ? If that's the case wouldn't the next presumably Led Zeppelin pin be due right around the holidays the same thing they did last year with Stranger Things.
Quoted from Jackontherocks:I will take Black Sabbath over Led Zep.
I most likely won't even take Zeppelin, I like many of there songs but not a huge fan. Sabbath? oh yeah
Quoted from Jackontherocks:I am a bigger GNR fan at my age
Trying to figure this one out as ur age should have nothing to do with it. Listen I saw GnR on the U ur Illusion tour, 18yrs old and flying high, it was easily one of the best concerts I've ever been to but their music didn't really stand the test of time for me.
Considering the last time Led Zeppelin performed live was 1980, and GnR has been touring 35 of the 40 years since, it wouldn't be surprising for the younger generation to feign ignorance of Led Zeppelin.. but they've heard the songs. And LZ is a MAJOR influence for GnR, both bluesy rock bands.
My concern with the LZ pin is going to be the song choice since many of the songs are not perfect for pinball. I'm certain a very talented game designer can fit the songs to the modes and make something truly amazing, but I'm not holding my breath. I had this concern for the Metallica pin as well... I would rather they not do it than screw it up. Fortunately they knocked it out of the park. Here's to hoping!
I'm thinking about re-skinning the songs in my MET and AS for a just a few months to get psyched up for LZ. All of these songs need to be in LZ:
Rock and Roll
Whole Lotta Love
Ramble On
Heartbreaker
Achilles Last Stand
The Song Remains the Same
Four Sticks
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot ("talking bout love")
Livin' Lovin' Maid
Good Times Bad Times
Kashmir
Your Time is Gonna Come
Black Dog
Black Mountain Side (great music for attract / end of game!)
Over the Hills and Faraway (starting around 1:30)
Anyone here over 55 should recognize all of these songs.
Quoted from swampfire:I'm thinking about re-skinning the songs in my MET and AS for a just a few months to get psyched up for LZ. All of these songs need to be in LZ:
Rock and Roll
Whole Lotta Love
Ramble On
Heartbreaker
Achilles Last Stand
The Song Remains the Same
Four Sticks
Communication Breakdown
Trampled Under Foot ("talking bout love")
Livin' Lovin' Maid
Good Times Bad Times
Kashmir
Your Time is Gonna Come
Black Dog
Black Mountain Side (great music for attract / end of game!)
Over the Hills and Faraway (starting around 1:30)
Anyone here over 55 should recognize all of these songs.
Quoted from swampfire:Over the Hills and Faraway (starting around 1:30)
The acoustic intro to Over the hills is one of my all time favorites! That would be an attract mode for me!
Quoted from Russell:Uh...Stairway?
I'd say no, for the same reason "Dream On" isn't in Aerosmith - not a good pace for pinball. Perfect for attract / high score though.
Quoted from Hazoff:What?
they were before my time as well but it was impossible to avoid not sure how u managed that unless of course u one of those techno/dance type fellas. Ur very lucky cause that's means u get to discover them.
Best band ever!!!
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