Quoted from Kiwipinhead:It's hard to play Sterns when it's not a level playing field [quoted image]
Ha , the LZ boys will count that as a feature 
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Quoted from Psw757:LZ isn’t eligible for the 2020 ballot so it will be game of the year in 2021!
Holy shit this is going to be a miserably year for pinball if that's the case.
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Quoted from Doctor6:Holy shit this is going to be a miserably year for pinball if that's the case.
Quoted from Psw757:GNR and LZ aren’t even competing for game of the year in 2020. LZ isn’t eligible for the 2020 ballot so it will be game of the year in 2021!
I bet you a Benjamin right here and now that this is not chosen as the game of the year 2021!
Quoted from PokerJake:Damn, I got screwed, too flat.
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I guess you got lucky.
7A8C6886-12ED-4297-9F21-69975F7A8C50 (resized).pngE3B29EE6-72A9-45D7-972B-8B475A635212 (resized).pngQuoted from romulusx:I guess you got lucky.
Or the warped one is abnormal. Maybe all JJP playfields chip? There's a thread about JJP and Stern playfields issues. Stern takes care of there customers. I've had 4 bag boards sent from JJP and not one of them have worked. Went through 3 different avenues to get the issue fixed. Seems like they don't know what they're doing. Luckily DI is a great game.
Quoted from romulusx:I bet you a Benjamin right here and now that this is not chosen as the game of the year 2021!
No need because I really don’t care, was just stating a fact that these two aren’t running against one another for 2020.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:It's hard to play Sterns when it's not a level playing field [quoted image]
Wow! That is pretty bad in my view.
Did you contact Stern or your distro? What did they say?
Quoted from PokerJake:Or the warped one is abnormal. Maybe all JJP playfields chip? There's a thread about JJP and Stern playfields issues. Stern takes care of there customers. I've had 4 bag boards sent from JJP and not one of them have worked. Went through 3 different avenues to get the issue fixed. Seems like they don't know what they're doing. Luckily DI is a great game.
Unlike Stern JJP is being proactive in testing all play fields prior to assembly. Theres even a quality stamp thats located under the apron. Whats Stern doing to address these issues? It appears absolutely nothing
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Quoted from PokerJake:Damn, I got screwed, too flat.
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Seems to be a mm or two lower on the left.
Quoted from Dr-pin:Seems to be a mm or two lower on the left.
Optical illusion due to black ink, it's flat. Fantastic game as well. Easy for JJP to test each playfield when they make less than 1k total of each machine and have 2 years to make them before their next release. The percentage of affected machines is much lower with Stern than JJP due to volume.
Quoted from PokerJake:Optical illusion due to black ink, it's flat. Fantastic game as well. Easy for JJP to test each playfield when they make less than 1k total of each machine and have 2 years to make them before their next release. The percentage of affected machines is much lower with Stern than JJP due to volume.
The point is they are doing something about it....Stern completely ignores the problem
Quoted from PtownPin:The point is they are doing something about it....Stern completely ignores the problem
How would you know? Stern has been much more accommodating than JJP when it comes to fixing issues.
Quoted from PokerJake:How would you know? Stern has been much more accommodating than JJP when it comes to fixing issues.
I don’t think Stern has made a statement concerning this matter.
I don’t JJP did either but the company (Mirco) has.JJP and crew have been very helpful concerning any issues I’ve had.
Quoted from PokerJake:How would you know? Stern has been much more accommodating than JJP when it comes to fixing issues.
Has Stern said something? Are they inspecting play fields? Clearly they are not as there is no indication they've solved any issues. In regards to your repair is that has not been my experience nor the experience of many I know....
Quoted from Lamberger:Anybody else get there reverse Orbiter 1 Jukebox yet?
With flippers!
Quoted from Lamberger:Hahahaha!
You two are so cute! Any idea how long the drive is from Indiana to Ontario?
Quoted from SWfan:You two are so cute! Any idea how long the drive is from Indiana to Ontario?
Bout 8 hours to Toronto, 4 hours to Windsor... and decent deals here for your dollar... A nice TZ just sold for $7500. cad.($5900 u.s) New cab and decals too. Same price as a LZ pro, no tax!. http://www.pinballrevolution.com/threads/tz-on-hold.10705/
before the election, would have been bout $4k u.s. Canadians are looking forward to par again!
Quoted from SWfan:You two are so cute! Any idea how long the drive is from Indiana to Ontario?
No idea but it’s only 28 hours for you and poker jake
Quoted from Lamberger:Bout 8 hours to Toronto, 4 hours to Windsor... and decent deals here from your dollar... A nice TZ just sold for $7500. cad.($5900 u.s) New cab and decals too. Same price as a LZ pro, no tax!. http://www.pinballrevolution.com/threads/tz-on-hold.10705/
TZ is a clunky overrated game with a nice theme. But hey, it’s packed with lots shit to look at and drool on the glass.
Quoted from Psw757:TZ is a clunky overrated game with a nice theme. But hey, it’s packed with lots shit to look at and drool on the glass.
To each there own, gets the most love and wow's here when people come over. I imagine GnR and the new Alien will be the same.
Quoted from Lamberger:To each there own, gets the most love here when people come over. I imagine GnR will be the same.
You never know, my JJP POTC gets the most hate but I love it. I was surprised to be honest but most in my circle are just casual players.
I don’t dislike TZ but don’t love it either.
Quoted from Psw757:You never know, my JJP POTC gets the most hate but I love it. I was surprised to be honest but most in my circle are just casual players.
I haven't tried it yet, looks cool
Looks like Alien is shipping soon, if anyone is having second thoughts about LZ
best playfields in the business!
Quoted from Lamberger:Looks like Alien is shipping soon, if anyone is having second thoughts with LZ
No second thoughts on LZ here but would like to give Alien a try, looks different.
Quoted from Psw757:No second thoughts on LZ here but would like to give Alien a try, looks different.
I haven't tried it either, but it's an awesome theme.. Game looks amazing too.
Arnold's loving it!
Quoted from Lamberger:I haven't tried it either, but it's an awesome theme.. Game looks amazing too.
Arnold's loving it!
When I bought my G N’R in Player1 I asked them for Alien and they told me that they don’t deal with that brand, where did you got yours Lamberger?
Quoted from Rolls-Royce:When I bought my G N’R in Player1 I asked them for Alien and they told me that they don’t deal with that brand, where did you got yours Lamberger?
Nitro and Cointaker is selling them. Who did you deal with at Player 1? He should have told you, Possibly worried about loosing a sale I guess.
Quoted from PokerJake:Optical illusion due to black ink, it's flat. Fantastic game as well. Easy for JJP to test each playfield when they make less than 1k total of each machine and have 2 years to make them before their next release. The percentage of affected machines is much lower with Stern than JJP due to volume.
It's amazing that people can associate throwing crap together fast and often is something to be celebrated rather than quality and taking time to try and make every machine better and better. With LZ, I would think it would spend about an hour on the assembly line maybe less as there is not alot of anything going on, oh but the flow! 
Quoted from wcbrandes:It's amazing that people can associate throwing crap together fast and often is something to be celebrated rather than quality and taking time to try and make every machine better and better. With LZ, I would think it would spend about an hour on the assembly line maybe less as there is not alot of anything going on, oh but the flow!
I love Flo
543CBCB3-D0FD-4930-A199-0D519BDA7009 (resized).jpegQuoted from romulusx:Damn I think Eric and the JJP crew are going to need a wheelbarrow to carry all those awards they won tonight!
How many did LZ win 
Quoted from thechakapakuni:How many did LZ win
Couldn’t vote for it this year, will be on ballot 2021.
Quoted from Psw757:Couldn’t vote for it this year, will be on ballot 2021.
Even with the great music I doubt LZ will be in the top 5
Quoted from noob-a-tron:Gary Myrick the figures? just looked on Youtube. Catchy. Problem is so spoiled from the 60's to the 90's i liked how the 60's went to the 70's then 70's to the 80's and 80's to the 90's but not since. Nothing improved it went backwards and very safe. look at some of the 3 piece bands of the 60's and the amps they used. Yet had far better sounds than today. Like Rory for instance the amp he used and the sounds he was getting out of it damn! And you seen him live you are one Lucky bastard! Just my personal opinion it just has not progressed but who compares to these guys no one. Every era has had someone stand out. Who is that person of 2010-2020?
Quoted from screaminr:I just had my GNR distributor over and he was telling me he got a stack of orders after Led Zep was revealed .
That's shocking... hmm, I can see non pin head Led Zeppelin fans getting suckered.
Quoted from Lamberger:That's shocking... hmm, I can see non pin head Led Zeppelin fans getting suckered.
I took him to mean that after people where able to see Led Zeppelin they got off the fence and ordered GnR?
Quoted from Lamberger:That's shocking... hmm, I can see non pin head Led Zeppelin fans getting suckered.
The only suckers are people that bash games. We are lucky to have plenty of choices and there is something in the hobby for everyone.
I have also read on FB that there are no shit pinball machines only shit people. I find that statement to be so appropriate.
Quoted from pinballaddicted:I have also read on FB that there are no shit pinball machines only shit people. I find that statement to be so appropriate.
...and now just keep an eye out on who downvotes that statement.
Quoted from beelzeboob:...and now just keep an eye out on who downvotes that statement.
I love that statement... I even asked the person on FB if I could use it on Pinside and he said "sure buddy, use it as much as you like! When you think about it, it is true."
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