Color scheme on the teaser looks a bit like the Mothership artwork. Probably a pipe dream but a Shepard Fairey cab/playfield would be rad.

Day 1 purchase in this house.

Haven't seen anyone mention Livin' Lovin' Maid - would be an absolute jam for a pin.

Listened to LZ today while cleaning the garage to get ready to house the pins (had them upstairs but I've gotten into the hobby and want to be able to swap in and out without stairs). My wishlist, since we're doing them:

Immigrant Song
Nobody's Fault But Mine
Heartbreaker/Livin' Lovin' Maid
Communication Breakdown
Houses of the Holy
Song Remains the Same
Trampled Under Foot
Misty Mountain Hop
Good Times Bad Times
Rock and Roll

There's definitely a few more I'd enjoy and a few I could do without (think a couple are just too slow). I'm definitely pending layout reveal as well, but very intrigued by this title and how it'll be integrated as a theme. I'm renting Maiden right now, for example, and love how the modes play and the visuals align with the songs. But without an Eddie, I'm definitely curious to see what direction they go for story on this one.

Damn. One of my favorites, will have to dig into this a bit more and find the story.

Celebration Day art ftw

I'd be more than happy with a Maiden structure for this, where you choose a song to jam to and then get into other songs via modes and multiballs. There's 12 there and that's gotta be the baseline.

If the layout seems like ST or SM it's gonna be hard for me to resist. I do hope the Pro isn't missing major components like AIQ though.

Honestly this is likely a better sales move. Stern Facebook has almost 550K followers.

I hope they've learned from the AIQ reveal and make sure to just have it be Jack +1 with quality sound and some decent explanations/direction. I thought this came off pretty badly for the big AIQ reveal but was MUCH better on the Marvel co-stream for the Pro version.

So if this lines up with 5 AM PT dealer call tomorrow, we'll be having a video teaser by 8 AM or so. Golden.

Definitely needed a screenshot here :/

Seconded, would be stoked for this.

Definitely intrigued from the jump here. Fun toys, light rails, third flipper, solid art. Ready for tracklist.

I'm good with 9 out of 10 of those tracks - thanks for posting!

That right ramp almost looks like it rebounds off the back of itself or something? Maybe it's the photo angle but certainly looks a little different. Anyone else tell what's up there?

Looks like it's a quick u-turn and into the habitrail that leads down the left side of the playfield...?

Looks like the song title lights up on the back of the playfield, too.

Wonder if we get any of that concert footage or if that's only for the teaser.

So the obvious pro vs premium differences to the naked eye so far:

Cab art
Art blades with embedded lighting
Spinner mech that raises and lowers (with magnet)
Third flipper mini loop w/wireform that connects to right side wireform

Curious to see if there is anything else major, but they may have me with the lights dammit. I do wish the pro cab was on premium but there's a lot of opinions about that lol.

Great catch! Honestly did not realize that little wireform wasn't on pro. Kinda seals premium for me personally.

So premium video says all 3 flippers can hit that center ramp, but looks like a pretty wild angle to get there from upper flipper...Hope it's reachable because I love some solid upper flipper play.

Yeah this is going to be rad - really can aim for some personal achievements by actually getting through each song. Little bit of a Guitar Hero/Rock Band vibe.

With this, and the lights on the side, methinks Stern had some insight into what JJP was doing with GNR. Competition is a good thing.

I dunno, put me in the camp of still being pretty into it. I wanna see a stream to get a better sense of gameplay/callouts, but I think this one looks fun. I am also newer to the hobby so less exposure to recycled layouts, and I like ramps and flow. Integrated lights look cool, extra multiball/magnet spinner, extra loop ramp on Premium seem appealing to me as far as add-ons. Could there be more songs? Sure. But I skip a couple on Maiden usually anyway, and no way do I need all 21 that are on GnR.

As far as the cab art, I agree it could be more cohesive with the playfield and that's kind of a whiff. But that big ass Zeppelin in black and white is pretty iconic and will stand out well in a garage setup (or just be sandwiched between other pins). I guess it'll be easier to get one if I decide gameplay looks good, so trending upward for me personally.

Something that I haven't seen brought up yet:

"Exclusive Brendon Small character speech"

Sounds like he's a comedian/musician known for Dethklok. Could be interesting.

I think the article is showing that, IF you finish the song you selected to start or triggered for a mode, then it goes to the next one in sequence. But yeah, you can select song at the start.

Hmmm, will have to see vids for how this plays out. I like how you pick a song on Maiden as your general jam track then qualify and start other songs as the modes, and LZ kinda sounds like if you pick a certain song you're locked into a certain play progression. I suppose you switch it up when you drain and can choose which song to start with for easier achievements etc.?

Friday 6 PM CT on Stern FB page

Kinda where I am coming from with this one: ST is super fun, but the theme does nothing for me. If I can have a similar shot experience (although 3rd flipper shots do look pretty tight) while jamming to Zeppelin instead of phaser sounds and clips from a movie I don't terribly care for? Yeah, count me in.

I believe the Premium features vid shows a through-spinner to Icarus shot.

Jack Danger said on his stream last night he thinks it's LE.

Bonham gong sticker for the Electric Magic spinner.

Aren't the wizard modes in Maiden also songs you could already be playing if you chose them at the start?

Yeah this is what has me a little skeptical on code. Granted Maiden is my only recent music pin experience, but I like starting a song but then having different tracks come in via modes - breaks up the repetition. But on that interview Tim said you're always in song mode, which makes me wonder if you pick Rock n Roll, for example, then start Zeppelin Multiball, is it still just Rock n Roll? That might feel a bit flat but we shall see.

But you qualify those songs after some intro play where there are random backing tracks right? I'm actually not a huge fan of that either (would prefer proper songs) but it's not the same song for the whole ball afaik.

The upper flipper play is the main thing I am holding out on. How easy will the hot shot ramp be? Is the center ramp generally achievable? It feels a bit limited in scope on first glance but if center ramp is legit I think it'll be a winner for flow. Left orbit > third flipper > center ramp $

It's gonna be fun to flip to Trampled Under Foot. Just sayin'.

Maybe I haven't been in this hobby long enough yet to be discerning enough, but I look at it this way: we know the music is good. If the pin is fun to shoot and has good rules, that's 3 out of 4 in my book.

I don't have huge problems with the PF art, but the cabs for sure could be better. However, if I am blasting Zeppelin in my garage and a neighbor walks by and sees me playing a giant version of their iconic first album? They're gonna take notice and hopefully come see what it's about. It's 100% light years different from the badass ZY art on GB and Deadpool, but I think the stark difference in this case might work out ok.

So I listened to the Stern Insider episode this morning, and there were a couple interesting takeaways:

- Ritchie said in May (!) he scrapped a lot of the design.
- Definitely sounds like a low-key confirmation from the art designer that licensing limitations were restrictive.
- A couple of hardcore Zep fans on the team.

That last point I think is something to keep in mind. As much as there might not be love for this machine on here, it's clear the designers were invested in the product. Maybe there were covid limitations that limited collaborative feedback, but Ritchie said he'd wanted this license since the 70s. The "phoned it in" criticism seems unfair.

That said, I still have a couple reservations about the code - I am so used to having full songs broken up by other song modes that I wonder if being in the same song for the whole ball is gonna be tiresome. At the same time, I used to love Guitar Hero and that's played as songs in their entirety. Also I will very likely drain before the end of most Zep songs anyway lol

Still, I kinda hope that if you end up in the left eject, for example, you are presented with an option to switch tracks mid-ball. Anyone know the best way to ping Sexton and ask him to work that in?

I didn't say they put their heart and souls into it - this isn't GnR + Slash. But I just can't see myself saying they phoned it in figuratively. Literally? Quite possible, and I think that is maybe why it feels off with so much of this game being done during covid. Harder to bring a cohesive package together when everyone is working from home and I am sure everyone has their opinion about if they should have held off longer on the release. But if it is fun to play I think it will still be a success, art be damned.

Did the stream get killed?

Holy fast, Batman.

Has anyone seen the center ramp get hit from the upper flipper? Haven't been able to watch the whole time.

Thru the Electric Magic to the center ramp looks pretty tasty. Definitely a fun looking game, but still might like a little more variety in the songs throughout a ball (as in, ability to change mid-ball). At the same time, I am not gonna have ball times as long as these dudes so maybe it's a moot point.

This seems like the party pin for people who prefer Zeppelin over GnR. Playfield does seem a bit bare but I think that might make it more accessible for new people picking it up.

I did see #3 but don't recall which flipper it was from. Sweet shot.

I asked Tim Sexton on Twitter if there were plans to be able to opt out of a song midway through a ball, perhaps by giving the option when you hit the left eject after a chorus or something. He says the team was talking about it and has a plan for it.

I think I like that option - makes it a bit closer to cashing out a jackpot on GnR and can break up the song monotony a little more, or you can just jam till the track ends. Hope it gets worked into the mix.

Looks like the VOD of today's stream is on the Stern Insider page - only need a free basic account.

Shots look rad (even if I think the "center ramp accessible from all flippers" is...not accurate) and the light show is killer. I do wonder if there is currently enough variety of objectives (for example, I like how the modes in Maiden make me combo or go ramp/spinner, etc. but I couldn't tell if that was the case on Zep) but I think that can evolve with code. Honestly my only gripes on the stream are that the sling and spinner sounds are almost *too* modern - they just don't fit the rest of the vibe. Also the British lady from Maiden for callouts would've been more fun, but that's a minor quibble.

Still, this looks like a party, the kind of thing I could have a lot of fun with post-covid when we have friends over. Not sure I am bold enough to go NIB without playing yet but I can probably convince myself for the sake of the soundtrack.

Yeah, I was quite pleased with the LCD work - a lot more Zep assets there so there must have been distictions in the license on when and where certain pieces could be used. But the animations imo are light years ahead of where AIQ was at release and capture the spirit of what most people think of LZ.

My suspicion is keeping it behind the Insider wall helps keep it from being muted for copyright issues.

It takes an email and no money to sign up. Not too difficult but I do work in marketing.

I can't watch the Maiden trailer on Stern's YouTube anymore.

It's right around 1:08:20 - looks like it's a quick ricochet off the inside right of the Electric Magic then up through the ramp. Still have not seen upper flipper to center ramp.

Edit: There's a third flipper to center ramp reject around 1:12:40.