Same hype train bait for every single release.........but I’m ashamed to admit I’m biting.......like I do every release lol.

How did he resolve all the Twitch licencing crap?

Just amazing how much crap gets spewed out on Pinside as if it's fact. Seems to be getting worse? Or more likely I'm just getting jaded.

Was just about to post this - Ritchie channeling a bit of Elwin here - 2 vertical kickback ramps and a middle ramp that can be hit from the top flipper.

Game looks like like it’ll be a fun shooter. Pretty solid game, if not groundbreaking. Pretty much the same as all Ritchie releases.

Playfield art is good. LE is a.....different, but aren’t all LE’s?

I like the 2 banks of drops up top that can both be hit by the upper flipper. And that upper flipper to lane to kickback shot on the Pre/LE looks fun. Could be a sleeper this one. A bit like Aerosmith.

Is the Angel guy so iconic for Zep?

LE’s always have controversial art packages.

Same, no interest arguing with you except to say youre wrong.

The Premium package is growing on me - sure it's lazy, but still looks pretty cool.

As is often the case, the aftermarket package of Premium with the laser cut side rails, Shooter nob and topper, will look better than the LE (warning: subjective opinion).

And you could get all that for less than the price of the LE.
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Despite being redundant, I actually like the Premium translite - probably most of all 3.

Biggest issue is it’s going to reflect really badly on the pf glass with all that backlit white. Even PDI won’t help that much.

Maybe a negative version of the translite would look cool?

Did he? How? (never played it on TMNT)

Could say the same for Sparky also. In both AS and Met, Dirty Donny did a great job of creating a “story” where there wasn’t one. We’re long overdue for another Dirty Donny game IMO. He could have done wonders with LZ.

In still not convinced the lazy art packages were due to licensing restrictions.

This is a Steve Ritchie game. Name me one Ritchie game that has good art? He is a known pinball art sceptic, and refuses to pay anything for art packages, instead using in house graphics design staff.

If anything LZ is probably his best art package to date.

Ok, BKSOR, forgot about that. The others not so much.

Pretty sure GOT also got some revisions done after the original was released. Didn’t they add some dodgy gradients and texture to the shields or something?

And it still looked crap.

Doesnt count because:
A) It's highly debatable whether it is "Killer Art" and B) It's a vault release that Ritchie would have had no say in and art wouldn't have come out of his BOM budget.

I'm with chuckwurt - art is relatively low on my priority list. If Ritchie sais to the beancounters at Stern - "take the art budget off my BOM and I'll add something else to the game that makes a difference to gameplay", then more power to him. Not seeing what that might be on LZ, but might be surprised once I play it.

Except youll be playing it to Led F*ckin Zepplin!!!!

It’s true.....on Jurassic Park, the art complaints only surfaced as a last resort complaint.....just in case you felt you had to complain about something.

It’s actually my ONLY complaint about RNM.....no voices from Gerry, Beth or Summer. I know the game has heaps of assets now, but there’s moments when you’re waiting for those voices, and they’re not there. If they can get voice actors for Scary Terry, surely they can do it for Gerry, Beth or Summer?!?!?

So $850 is cheap now? It’s a pretty lame effort as usual.

So glad I haven’t been sucked in to this whole topper obsession.

Looks really fun. Reminds me of ACDC. Steve Ritchie and rock music are made for each other.

Lights look good, flow looks good.

Animations and assets look lame, but won’t affect the fun.

Sacrificed my TWD topper as bait to score a AIQLE. Picking it up tomorrow, can’t wait.

Personally the raised spinner looked meh...... what is it supposed to be? If it was a Zeppelin rising up that would make sense. Or some other iconic object. But it’s literally nothing.

And no kinetic feedback at all. If you miss, it’s a bricked post shot, if you nail it it’s a Shot to nowhere.

Still think the game will be fun to play.

Loved the jukebox song selection with the album covers - that’s the best song selection I’ve seen so far.

But you can hit Icarus any time.

Ummmm, guys.......theres a pandemic remember? Has been for almost 12 months. Pretty sure that's the main cause of the backlog and it's on the production side - not because Stern are doing anything out of the ordinary.

More like JJP's Rolls Royce to Sterns Honda Civic.

Merry Caaaaaaarrrrrrrgguuuuuuument!!!

I'm the fanboy??? lol

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And these tech coporations (Fb, Google, Youtube etc) deserve to be scrutinized. Instead of coughing up the revenue, they're bashing the users, hoping that will force the rights holders to re-consider. Thats what you get when you allow concentration of power in any marketplace. Just the regulators have no idea how to manage it nor do the politicians want to upset everyone addicted to social media.

Ok. That pro is super basic...even for a pro. It really is The Pin level basic. Sure it shoots well - like 15 other pro level Sterns, but wow... it’s really getting to the level of pick a theme, pick a layout, slap on some art, done. Just like The Pin.

Why not have 3 good shooting layouts, a bunch of themes everyone wants, and let customer pick and “customize” their game.

I cant stop playing AIQLE at the moment Ice. And EHOHLE due next week - things are good. We all know Stern can obviously create some of the best games when it all falls into place.

If I was a huge LZ fan id probably have ordered LZ - but then it would have been an LE since I was such a huge fan. Regardless of the game, what's not to like about playing pinball to your favourite band?

Nice to see you set your expectations are so high.

Shouldn’t someone be starting a LZ owners thread by now? Time to let the Hype thread free to be the cesspool it always wanted to be.

Ok, lol. 21 days ago - I thought the games had to be delivered before they could start an owners thread?

Edit: actually there are 2 of them.

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If they did have the song, what a shame to waste one of the most iconic rock songs ever by hiding it in a Wizard mode. I guess as long as it was in a mini-Wizard mode - one not too easy but not impossible - a one in 10 or 20 game mode - it would make sense. That way it’s not too over exposed but still achievable.

In terms of it being too slow, not all of it is. That’s part of what makes the song great - the build up. Good coding could make that a great mini-wizard mode that builds up with the song.

But I seriously doubt Stern have the song if they’re not advertising it. It’s way too iconic (and likely expensive) to hide.

Would have been so much better if that shot looped back around - could have also been repeatable.

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