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Stern Led Zeppelin Hype Thread

By westofrome

10 months ago


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#1901 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinchild:

The games you're mentioning are to easy for me.
They make me yawn.

Then again I have skills
You'll understand some day

@ Napolean Pinchild

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#1902 10 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

I would just recommend tuning into FB and if it gets shut down bounce over to his YouTube channel. Or sterns.

Thanks .I was hoping to avoid FB but I’m not missing this .I have a good feeling about the gameplay and am in the minority that really likes the nostalgic look to these pins .Expecially the prem .

#1903 10 months ago
Quoted from Kkoss24:

Thanks .I was hoping to avoid FB but I’m not missing this .I have a good feeling about the gameplay and am in the minority that really likes the nostalgic look to these pins .Expecially the prem .

You can watch stream on their fb page without having a fb login correct?

I’ve been able to see their videos of the release this week not logged in.

#1904 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinchild:

The games you're mentioning are to easy for me.
They make me yawn.

I was once a bold loud mouth newbie as well-trust me I stuck my foot in my mouth quite a few times
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#1905 10 months ago

after scrolling thru pictures of MMR and crazi levi and the rest of this zep thread i have come to this conclusion. the problem with stern LZ is JJP GNR. mic drop! ramble on.

#1906 10 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

I was once a bold loud mouth newbie as well-trust me I stuck my foot in my mouth quite a few times
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I like drinking early and often

#1907 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinchild:

I like drinking early and often

First step - admitting you have a problem.

#1908 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinchild:

The games you're mentioning are to easy for me.

I call Bull Shit-Now here is your challenge. Post a video of you playing Star Wars with open out-lanes and if you can even destroy the Death Star I will give you $25. Show me those skilllz

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#1909 10 months ago
Quoted from coop:

I was reading your comments and I have to say they felt dismissive. So, I thought I would try to sketch out what people like me are thinking. It is just a pinball machine but I do love pinball and there are truly a very limited amount of grail themes.
In 1977 I was in 5th grade when I saw Star Wars at the Coronet theater in San Francisco—which is where the film premiered. I saw it in the theater 9 times that summer. Led Zeppelin was the soundtrack to my teenage years. Those types of memories are limited. A person may only have a couple of true grail themes. Sure, I'll enjoy the next one as I enjoy them all to some degree but I still think it's fair to leave space for a discussion about lackluster art package.
I listened to Jeff Teolis to raise the same issues that I had this evening on his podcast. He's still buying the game. I too still want to play it and I might even buy one. I do care a lot about this theme and unfortunately, the next one will just be something random that I won't have an emotional connection to. So, for now, I’ll just go ahead and make my points and you can drink my beer for me.
See you tomorrow on Twitch.
P.S. I think you're a cool person. You've helped me out on here with some pinball problems. I know you and I could just totally hang out and it would be fun. I'm just talking about my feelings and stuff.

I’m not sure if you’ve given SW a chance. The art might have been a sore spot but the comic edition especially the pro is outstanding. As for gameplay, layout and code it’s one of my all time favorite pins.

Now I understand not everyone loves the same pins but also I’m not sure everyone has given SW a fair chance.

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#1910 10 months ago
Quoted from rai:

I’m not sure if you’ve given SW a chance. The art might have been a sore spot but the comic edition especially the pro is outstanding. As for gameplay, layout and code it’s one of my all time favorite pins.
Now I understand not everyone loves the same pins but also I’m not sure everyone has given SW a fair chance.
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I'm not a huge fan of this game but I see nothing wrong with the art on it. This is another example of what I mentioned in regards to the comparison with the PF art from Aerosmith. You can walk up to this game and instantly see where the shots are because the art guides you to them, for newbies or even just someone new to that particular game it helps you find places to send the ball. This seems to be something that SR wants / likes in his games and it goes back a long way in his career.

#1911 10 months ago

AC/DC Luci and GOT Prem are eye candy. The pros were not so much, but it’s all subjective. Stern needs to step the quality back up.

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#1912 10 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

You can watch stream on their fb page without having a fb login correct?
I’ve been able to see their videos of the release this week not logged in.

How do you watch without a login ?

#1913 10 months ago
Quoted from Kkoss24:

How do you watch without a login ?

Can you see this video?

https://fb.watch/2szvt3M8sd/

#1915 10 months ago

No says log in first

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#1916 10 months ago

I have to smile over the art hate.. especially when so many pin collectors shelling out the 7-9k for these wedge them in side by side so you can barely see the sides of the cabinet. Honestly, other than a few pins I can't tell you how many pins that I love the side art on them. I'm more focused on the playfield and backglass for art.. and over everything else is it fun.. I keep reading that if I'm gonna pay X dollars I want an art collection. Must be nice to have that problem. I was thinking .. sweet pin, wish I could afford one.

#1918 10 months ago

Pro incoming by the end of the month!

#1919 10 months ago
Quoted from PokerJake:

Pro incoming by the end of the month!

Shweeeet!

#1920 10 months ago
Quoted from rai:

I’m not sure if you’ve given SW a chance. The art might have been a sore spot but the comic edition especially the pro is outstanding. As for gameplay, layout and code it’s one of my all time favorite pins.
Now I understand not everyone loves the same pins but also I’m not sure everyone has given SW a fair chance.

Star Wars is generally disliked by those who either dont know how to play it or arent very good at pinball.

Its a hard game.. people turn it on their game lasts 35 seconds therefore "it sucks" not them

#1921 10 months ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

If everybody thinks a game is boring nobody will buy it.
If it´s really fun and you want to buy it for your home, why wouldn´t you care how it looks?
Hence, the better it shoots the more important looks get.
You cant honestly say, you dont care one bit what your furniture looks like aslong as they are comfortable?
Well, you can if you still live in your moms garage, but most people dont.

Furnituregument is a new one lol but yes, comfort in furniture is top priority. That's my point. Gameplay most important. I don't even care how a pin looks if it doesn't play well. If the pin is absolutely butt fugly then maybe that spoils it but LZ is not that bad.

#1922 10 months ago

So if I can see this now will this link become the stream later?

#1923 10 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

So if I can see this now will this link become the stream later?

Just sign up for facebook.. then they can data mine you until the day you die and you can see pictures of peoples food every day.

#1924 10 months ago

No. I was just posting that to test if Kkoss24 could see it without logging in.

This is the link you want.

https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/

#1925 10 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

No. I was just posting that to test if kkoss24 could see it without logging in.
This is the link you want.
https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/

Ok I’ve been able to view those vids all along, don’t think you need to be a FB user to see it.

#1926 10 months ago
Quoted from rai:

I’m not sure everyone has given SW a fair chance.

Fair enough, SW playfield looks way better than LZ!

Look at how at least on SW, the location of the inserts were clearly designed with shots and art in mind.

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Now compare with LZ. Clearly art was just pasted on after design and even a poor job at that. Look at how inserts cover up art haphazardly. Lowest in the industry. Other Sterns games are great, this is just clear as day really poor work.

Now if you don’t see it, I’m happy for you as maybe ignorance is bliss. But for those who have an eye, which is pretty much most of us, one can tell the difference.

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And if you don’t care, then don’t care enough to comment. I care because I care and that’s why I comment.

#1927 10 months ago
Quoted from spinal:

Fair enough, SW playfield looks way better than LZ!
Look at how at least on SW, the location of the inserts were clearly designed with shots and art in mind.
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Now compare with LZ. Clearly art was just pasted on after design and even a poor job at that. Look at how inserts cover up art haphazardly. Lowest in the industry. Other Sterns games are great, this is just clear as day really poor work.
Now if you don’t see it, I’m happy for you as maybe ignorance is bliss. But for those who have an eye, which is pretty much most of us, one can tell the difference.
[quoted image]
And if you don’t care, then don’t care enough to comment. I care because I care and that’s why I comment.

Not really understanding what you mean by “how the inserts cover up art haphazardly “

#1928 10 months ago

I've noticed Pinsiders tend to think "good art" means hand drawn and overloaded with detail. Which is fine, you have this object in your home and it's fun to keep finding details as the years go by.

That said a simple design can be fine, like Stern ST 2013 playfield. But if a simple art style doesn't fit the theme, like GOT playfield then yes, people will birch.

But like GOT I'm sure Empty Zeppelin was more victim to licensor restrictions than a lack of talent or effort on Stern's part. What is their plan, to force Ritchie to retire with super low BOMs and reused Iron Monger mechs?

#1929 10 months ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

Not really understanding what you mean by “how the inserts cover up art haphazardly “

When I look at the Star Wars art package, I see areas of art that blend with inserts and using inserts to mark out areas of art/story.

Look at the center and how the major mode hot dog and square inserts frame a center area with the main characters portraits above their associated inserts. Outside each mode insert is an area of art related to that specific mode.

Inserts up to the Death Star Ramp use the green laser blast to help guide the player to the shot, and then two iconic characters of opposite alignments are split along it. Their own lightsabers going towards shots.

Granted Star Wars is a story. They have lots of visual cues to work with.

But Led Zeppelin is just whatever. We get blimps, Icarus, and a few hermit logos. Other music pins have done better

And just to say, I’m not mad. I’m not saying the game is trash. I love pinball. It looks like a fun layout. I just want them to be the best. I enjoy trying to discuss and explain specific areas. I’m not just shitting on it to be mean. I’m genuinely a bit disappointed as a pinball nerd. (That’s right, I went full disappointed parent)

I’ll forward to seeing how it shoots. The upper flipper shots look fun.

#1930 10 months ago

Thought it was funny that in order to get a good picture of the side art you had to move the other pin. Back to the hype.. I have pro versions of GOTG and TMNT. I saw no reason to buy the premium. However ST and AIQ have me considering the premium. LZ has me right on the fence. I do like the premium art better (there i said it).. but the ball thing in the middle isn't a big deal to me, nor is the extra habitrail. But the missing lights might deal breaker. Looks cool though.

#1931 10 months ago
Quoted from smokinhos:

Thought it was funny that in order to get a good picture of the side art you had to move the other pin. Back to the hype.. I have pro versions of GOTG and TMNT. I saw no reason to buy the premium. However ST and AIQ have me considering the premium. LZ has me right on the fence. I do like the premium art better (there i said it).. but the ball thing in the middle isn't a big deal to me, nor is the extra habitrail. But the missing lights might deal breaker. Looks cool though.

Stern is releasing the lights for the Pro in March, not sure how much though

#1932 10 months ago
Quoted from PokerJake:

Stern is releasing the lights for the Pro in March

For real? That’s huge.

#1933 10 months ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

But Led Zeppelin is just whatever. We get blimps, Icarus, and a few hermit logos. Other music pins have done better
And just to say, I’m not mad. I’m not saying the game is trash. I love pinball. It looks like a fun layout. I just want them to be the best. I enjoy trying to discuss and explain specific areas. I’m not just shitting on it to be mean. I’m genuinely a bit disappointed as a pinball nerd. (That’s right, I went full disappointed parent)
I’ll forward to seeing how it shoots

100% exacty how I feel

#1934 10 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

No. I was just posting that to test if kkoss24 could see it without logging in.
This is the link you want.
https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/

Thanks CW I’ll see if it comes on YouTube I’m not giving in to FB I’ve made it this long without it

#1935 10 months ago

So I listened to the Stern Insider episode this morning, and there were a couple interesting takeaways:

- Ritchie said in May (!) he scrapped a lot of the design.
- Definitely sounds like a low-key confirmation from the art designer that licensing limitations were restrictive.
- A couple of hardcore Zep fans on the team.

That last point I think is something to keep in mind. As much as there might not be love for this machine on here, it's clear the designers were invested in the product. Maybe there were covid limitations that limited collaborative feedback, but Ritchie said he'd wanted this license since the 70s. The "phoned it in" criticism seems unfair.

That said, I still have a couple reservations about the code - I am so used to having full songs broken up by other song modes that I wonder if being in the same song for the whole ball is gonna be tiresome. At the same time, I used to love Guitar Hero and that's played as songs in their entirety. Also I will very likely drain before the end of most Zep songs anyway lol

Still, I kinda hope that if you end up in the left eject, for example, you are presented with an option to switch tracks mid-ball. Anyone know the best way to ping Sexton and ask him to work that in?

#1936 10 months ago
Quoted from spinal:

Fair enough, SW playfield looks way better than LZ!
Look at how at least on SW, the location of the inserts were clearly designed with shots and art in mind.
[quoted image]
Now compare with LZ. Clearly art was just pasted on after design and even a poor job at that. Look at how inserts cover up art haphazardly. Lowest in the industry. Other Sterns games are great, this is just clear as day really poor work.
Now if you don’t see it, I’m happy for you as maybe ignorance is bliss. But for those who have an eye, which is pretty much most of us, one can tell the difference.
[quoted image]
And if you don’t care, then don’t care enough to comment. I care because I care and that’s why I comment.

Crazy ribbing in that clear on LZ.

#1937 10 months ago
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

Crazy ribbing in that clear on LZ.

Oh no!

#1938 10 months ago

My prediction... a reverse Elvira.

Everyone loved that artwise until they saw it in action first stream...

I am guessing this will be the opposite once the stream is done.

Either way I called and asked about one from more than one dealer and guess what? sold out 100% on pros.

#1939 10 months ago

Found this quote on arcadeheroes.com:

"Pro cabinet sides are pre-cut to allow installation of an accessory Expression Lighting System, available in February."

Great news for those of us wanting a pro.

#1940 10 months ago
Quoted from Bcrowe:

Found this quote on arcadeheroes.com:
"Pro cabinet sides are pre-cut to allow installation of an accessory Expression Lighting System, available in February."
Great news for those of us wanting a pro.

I wonder if it’ll be a standard option on all game cabinets going forward

#1941 10 months ago

Maybe they can also Put a Premium Playfield in a Pro Cab like they did With Metallica Monsters / People actually Payed and Bought a Monsters which was a Premium in a PPro cab With the only change was a Diff Backglass Art instead of the Pro Backglass, so in turn you got pro Cab and Head art . Prem playfield and Newer Backglass That was unlike Pro Prem and LE Backglass.
Not that i thought it a good idea . I like my Met Roadcase with the Band Backglass

#1942 10 months ago
Quoted from onemilemore:

it's clear the designers were invested in the product.

It is?
What in this game, says the designers put their heart and souls into this project?

#1943 10 months ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

It is?
What in this game, says the designers put their heart and souls into this project?

You will see tonight

#1944 10 months ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

It is?
What in this game, says the designers put their heart and souls into this project?

I didn't say they put their heart and souls into it - this isn't GnR + Slash. But I just can't see myself saying they phoned it in figuratively. Literally? Quite possible, and I think that is maybe why it feels off with so much of this game being done during covid. Harder to bring a cohesive package together when everyone is working from home and I am sure everyone has their opinion about if they should have held off longer on the release. But if it is fun to play I think it will still be a success, art be damned.

#1945 10 months ago

Hey guys if you want to watch today's stream on something larger than your phone or iPad I just discovered an App on my Samsung TV called "Facebook Watch" that allows you to watch FB vids without a FB account. I searched Stern and found the LZ vids, hopefully the stream will appear there in real time this evening!

#1946 10 months ago

Facebook has dedicated gaming channels for streaming called Facebook Gaming. Are we sure this isn’t going to be there?

#1947 10 months ago
Quoted from EMDude:

Hey guys if you want to watch today's stream on something larger than your phone or iPad I just discovered an App on my Samsung TV called "Facebook Watch" that allows you to watch FB vids without a FB account. I searched Stern and found the LZ vids, hopefully the stream will appear there in real time this evening!

I looked up FB watch it looks like if you go to “live” it will be posted up at 6 .It seems to scroll through the latest live streams

#1948 10 months ago

What time is Dead Flip streaming again? EST?

#1949 10 months ago
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#1950 10 months ago
Quoted from Skyemont:

What time is Dead Flip streaming again? EST?

7:00 PM EST

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