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Stern Led Zeppelin Hype Thread

By westofrome

11 months ago


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#1001 11 months ago
Quoted from sataneatscheese:

They take completely different approaches to getting the lighting... Speaking of which... I wonder how Stern did that? GNR has the ligthing on the playfield shinning up. Stern has theirs drilled into the wood. I am guessing there is a second chanel below the glass with a string of lights in it with the chanel simply covered up by the decal. Will be interesting to see how they actually did it.

Yeah I'm actually surprised with their implementation. It seems more complicated from a quick glance and I'd like to know more.

Looking at this screenshot really close, you can see a long line seam along the side below the lights. I'm guessing the lights are in a plastic assembly that slides into the side. And I guess they cut a channel in the sidewall of the cabinet to make space for it?

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#1002 11 months ago

10 songs is not a lot, but they picked 10 epic ones.

#1003 11 months ago

I dunno, put me in the camp of still being pretty into it. I wanna see a stream to get a better sense of gameplay/callouts, but I think this one looks fun. I am also newer to the hobby so less exposure to recycled layouts, and I like ramps and flow. Integrated lights look cool, extra multiball/magnet spinner, extra loop ramp on Premium seem appealing to me as far as add-ons. Could there be more songs? Sure. But I skip a couple on Maiden usually anyway, and no way do I need all 21 that are on GnR.

As far as the cab art, I agree it could be more cohesive with the playfield and that's kind of a whiff. But that big ass Zeppelin in black and white is pretty iconic and will stand out well in a garage setup (or just be sandwiched between other pins). I guess it'll be easier to get one if I decide gameplay looks good, so trending upward for me personally.

#1004 11 months ago

All good songs but would have liked to have misty mountain top and houses of the holy waiting game play video

#1005 11 months ago

For those liking the cabinet art on Pro better than the Premium, they did make this change on Metallica Premium as people weren't loving the Road Case. But those were different times in terms of production time and numbers.

#1006 11 months ago

Aerosmith 2.0
If its Steve Ritchie and Timmy Sexton stay the hell away. BKSOR has the weakest code and never got a real update.
This game looks as bare as possible. I feel bad for all the LZ fans that waited for this.. prob feel like i did when i bought the BKSORLE.

#1007 11 months ago

Icarus on a stick ?

#1008 11 months ago

I assume they blew the bulk of the budget on licensing ?

#1009 11 months ago
Quoted from westofrome:

In terms of (relatively) newer bands, Radiohead would translate to pinball pretty well I think...

I’d buy a Radiohead pin immediately! Would go great next to my Radiohead tattoos. But then I’d have to play shirtless.

#1010 11 months ago
Quoted from hoby1:

I assume they blew the bulk of the budget on licensing ?

Yes like Star Wars.

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#1011 11 months ago

and SW turned into a fantasic pin

#1012 11 months ago
Quoted from PokerJake:

and SW turned into a fantasic pin

I will agree somewhat.

#1013 11 months ago

They should have just themed it for what it is.

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#1014 11 months ago

"Only 500 Limited Edition games will be made for sale throughout the world. This limited version includes an exclusive Icarus themed full color mirrored backglass, exclusive custom themed cabinet artwork, custom high gloss Paradise Shimmer Blue powder-coated armor, a custom autographed bottom arch, exclusive custom art blades, upgraded audio system, anti-reflection pinball glass, a shaker motor, and a sequentially numbered plaque."

Whose autograph is on the LE ?

#1015 11 months ago
Quoted from fnosm:

Whose autograph is on the LE ?

Usually the designer.

#1016 11 months ago
Quoted from fnosm:

Whose autograph is on the LE ?

Steve Ritchie

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#1017 11 months ago

The response has been very big. There are people who love this band and it will probably be the only pin in the household. It's nice to see enthusiasm come from other areas. Phone has been ringing all day.

#1018 11 months ago

I couldn’t imagine basing my opinion of whether to get a pin or not based off of a 50 second video lol . Like SW , I think this will grow on people . I expect it will be fairly deep .

#1019 11 months ago

Not sure if anyone has taken the time to read through this but the coding sounds a bit different for a music pin.

https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/led-zeppelin-pinball-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/

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#1020 11 months ago
Quoted from PinballAlley:

Phone has been ringing all day.

People wanting their deposits back?

#1021 11 months ago
Quoted from fnosm:

"Only 500 Limited Edition games will be made for sale throughout the world. This limited version includes an exclusive Icarus themed full color mirrored backglass, exclusive custom themed cabinet artwork, custom high gloss Paradise Shimmer Blue powder-coated armor, a custom autographed bottom arch, exclusive custom art blades, upgraded audio system, anti-reflection pinball glass, a shaker motor, and a sequentially numbered plaque."
Whose autograph is on the LE ?

Just Steve Ritchie.

I liked on Elvira HOH LE/SLE they had 4 people sign it (designer, artist, coder, lead engineer).

#1022 11 months ago

Can we at least get some game play before you all condemn? I am comparing this to ehoh at first glance, ehoh seemed so barren on bottom end I passed on nib. After watching it play and code progress I bought and will be here a long time. Give it a chance

#1023 11 months ago

People excited to order this pin. I like that .

#1024 11 months ago

I like Steve and his machines a lot, but his autograph doesn't move the needle for me.,
This game is gonna be great.
Can't wait to play it.

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#1025 11 months ago
Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:

OMG. I am speechless. This is atrocious. So, let me get this straight: Stern pays LZ $700-900k to LZ for the following items: 10-12 images from albums (hindenburg, artist images, icarus, and the funny crazy art package), 10 songs, and rights to images on animations. Led Zeppelin takes the check, and sends the IP to Stern, who then simply slaps the predetermined items onto the playfields and cabinets, which were already pre approved. Then they use SR's completed whitewood and implement the art quickly and easily. This is amazing.
Did Steve Ritchie even make a shallow attempt to integrate the theme here? Did Steve Ritchie have this game in his back pocket ready to launch, and just slap LZ IP on it and sell it? this looks like another SR game with a perfect fan layout same depth shot pattern, little to no design effort on tuning the shots in the game, and very little R and D to get the game shooting right, because its pretty much already been done many times. what a shame. do better Stern!! I hope SR is done after this. this is getting ridiculous. his time has come. Two of the biggest IPs in history of pinball (star wars and Led) are now immortalized by two of the most uninspired designs in pinball history since the year 2000. What a shame. SW and LZ deserved better representations of their band in Pinball, like metallica and ACDC. This can't happen.
Hey guys, at least we can count on Borg and Elwin to bring it on the next titles. SR needs to have a seat and watch Elwin and Borg build the company every year.

Asinine post.

#1026 11 months ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

I wonder how long ago Stern started planning the side rail lights. Just interesting GNR and LZ have a similar feature in such a short time span. I would think Stern was working on it before the GNR reveal, but it'd be funny if they spent the last two months cramming it in there.

I suspect that all the manufacturers have been kicking around ideas for stadium mounted lights for several years especially with Pin Stadiums gaining popularity, showing up on streams and PAPA, etc. As has been pointed out Spooky did them with AMH years ago, taking it to the next level with colors and fully integrated into code is a natural progression. I look forward to seeing this in action in person.

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#1027 11 months ago
Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:

OMG. I am speechless. This is atrocious. So, let me get this straight: Stern pays LZ $700-900k to LZ for the following items: 10-12 images from albums (hindenburg, artist images, icarus, and the funny crazy art package), 10 songs, and rights to images on animations. Led Zeppelin takes the check, and sends the IP to Stern, who then simply slaps the predetermined items onto the playfields and cabinets, which were already pre approved. Then they use SR's completed whitewood and implement the art quickly and easily. This is amazing.
Did Steve Ritchie even make a shallow attempt to integrate the theme here? Did Steve Ritchie have this game in his back pocket ready to launch, and just slap LZ IP on it and sell it? this looks like another SR game with a perfect fan layout same depth shot pattern, little to no design effort on tuning the shots in the game, and very little R and D to get the game shooting right, because its pretty much already been done many times. what a shame. do better Stern!! I hope SR is done after this. this is getting ridiculous. his time has come. Two of the biggest IPs in history of pinball (star wars and Led) are now immortalized by two of the most uninspired designs in pinball history since the year 2000. What a shame. SW and LZ deserved better representations of their band in Pinball, like metallica and ACDC. This can't happen.
Hey guys, at least we can count on Borg and Elwin to bring it on the next titles. SR needs to have a seat and watch Elwin and Borg build the company every year.

Amen all damn day. What did SR get paid for the 30 minutes this took?

#1028 11 months ago

Hard plunge to "Hot Shot" reversing ramp to the right flipper?
Or hard plunge to "L-E-D" stand-ups just below the Hot Shot entrance?

#1029 11 months ago

Better off releasing Fathom again and crank up some zeppelin while playing it , or anything else for that matter. This was a let down for me I guess I will keep my deposit for GNR..

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#1030 11 months ago
Quoted from UNCgump:

Amen all damn day. What did SR get paid for the 30 minutes this took?

Double asinine post.

#1031 11 months ago

Something that I haven't seen brought up yet:

"Exclusive Brendon Small character speech"

Sounds like he's a comedian/musician known for Dethklok. Could be interesting.

#1032 11 months ago

I bet it will be fun code dependent, but damn thats the worst art since GOT

#1033 11 months ago

What is asinine about the post? All I am saying is that Led Zep gave them 10 songs, and a few small elements of their IP for the license fee. Stern literally got a small handful of items for the license fee. and you can bet they paid alot for the license. the obvious low bom on this game speaks to my point. in any case SR just mailed this design in...very little effort on a simple five shot layout.

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#1034 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Not sure if anyone has taken the time to read through this but the coding sounds a bit different for a music pin.
https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/led-zeppelin-pinball-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/

I read it, and one thing leaped right out at me.....

IT PLAYS THE SONGS IN THE ORDER OF THE LIST ON THE BACK PANEL

Woof! Hope everyone likes hearing "Good times Bad Times" about a MILLION times. Have they learned nothing from "Ok who brought the dog?" and the mistakes of linear mode play? Switch the song order up with some switch hits or allow player to select.

Repetitive play is stagnant play IMO.

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#1035 11 months ago
Quoted from MikeS:

Steve Ritchie[quoted image]

Anyone else wonder why they hand designers a heavily used Sharpie that was found at the bottom of a toolbox, to sign these aprons?

#1036 11 months ago
Quoted from RobT:

People wanting their deposits back?

Dude that was cold!

#1037 11 months ago

So this turned out more or less how I expected: a Zeppelin game on a budget.

No Stairway. No Dazed and Confused. No art from Led Zeppelin II, IV or Physical Graffiti. Albums 1 and 3 are good, but 3 certainly isn't considered iconic like those others. Hell, doesn't look like much custom art at all, just a photoshop collage of Zeppelin assets. Only 10 musical tracks total. *NOTHING* custom developed for this theme, instead we get a recycled leaper toy from Elvis. What exactly about the angle dude says "Jump?!" It's like they realized the pro was completely barren, so Steve recycled something easy just so there could be a Zeppelin-themed sculpt somewhere. Oh, a plastic blimp as well.

Can't say I'm really disappointed, because after BK:SOR I definitely wasn't expecting much. It'll be fun enough to play on location as I save up for KME #4 but I doubt I ever buy one unless the code is incredible.

#1038 11 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

I read it, and one thing leaped right out at me.....
IT PLAYS THE SONGS IN THE ORDER OF THE LIST ON THE BACK PANEL
Woof! Hope everyone likes hearing "Good times Bad Times" about a MILLION times. Have they learned nothing from "Ok who brought the dog?" and the mistakes of linear mode play? Switch the song order up with some switch hits or allow player to select.
Repetitive play is stagnant play IMO.
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I've seen that contradicted and that you can select the song at the start of each ball just like AC/DC. Guess we'll know for sure pretty soon.

#1039 11 months ago
Quoted from newtoit:

Aerosmith 2.0
If its Steve Ritchie and Timmy Sexton stay the hell away. BKSOR has the weakest code and never got a real update.
This game looks as bare as possible. I feel bad for all the LZ fans that waited for this.. prob feel like i did when i bought the BKSORLE.

nonsense.

#1040 11 months ago
Quoted from onemilemore:

Something that I haven't seen brought up yet:
"Exclusive Brendon Small character speech"
Sounds like he's a comedian/musician known for Dethklok. Could be interesting.

He did the voice for Sparky on Metallica and the Aerosmith jacky characters..

#1041 11 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

I read it, and one thing leaped right out at me.....
IT PLAYS THE SONGS IN THE ORDER OF THE LIST ON THE BACK PANEL
Woof! Hope everyone likes hearing "Good times Bad Times" about a MILLION times. Have they learned nothing from "Ok who brought the dog?" and the mistakes of linear mode play? Switch the song order up with some switch hits or allow player to select.
Repetitive play is stagnant play IMO.
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Watch the accessories video, I think your wrong. Song selection appears on the lcd as a juke box flipping through the songs with respective album art. Looks good IMO.

#1042 11 months ago
Quoted from onemilemore:

Something that I haven't seen brought up yet:
"Exclusive Brendon Small character speech"
Sounds like he's a comedian/musician known for Dethklok. Could be interesting.

He's been doing voice callouts for Stern for years. Sometimes additional music like BK SOR

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#1043 11 months ago
Quoted from HEAD_boss_HOG:

What is asinine about the post? All I am saying is that Led Zep gave them 10 songs, and a few small elements of their IP for the license fee. Stern literally got a small handful of items for the license fee. and you can bet they paid alot for the license. the obvious low bom on this game speaks to my point. in any case SR just mailed this design in...very little effort on a simple five shot layout.

Well, everything you're posting. Now, there are a couple of things I can do to help you understand the word "asinine".

A: I can type slower.

B: I can write it in crayon and upload a picture for you.

So you choose. A, or B.

#1044 11 months ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Problem with all those high res photos from the last page is that you can zoom in on them. First pic from the Prem. Second from the Pro. Minor stuff, but still crazy that they can't 100% fix the issues... and these are the PF's chosen for marketing.
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Nobody can complain when they get their games, it's *exactly* like it was shown on the brochure...

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#1045 11 months ago

folks - do we really need to get personal on this, sure if you don't like the game or Stern the company say why but too much personal bs on Steve and Tim and the rest of the Stern team, they are good people and you guys do us pinsiders no great help in getting personal.

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#1046 11 months ago
Quoted from TreyBo69:

Just Steve Ritchie.
I liked on Elvira HOH LE/SLE they had 4 people sign it (designer, artist, coder, lead engineer).

Quoted from Napoleon:

Double asinine post.

If you keep saying it it could be true

#1047 11 months ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Watch the accessories video, I think your wrong. Song selection appears on the lcd as a juke box flipping through the songs with respective album art. Looks good IMO.

I think the article is showing that, IF you finish the song you selected to start or triggered for a mode, then it goes to the next one in sequence. But yeah, you can select song at the start.

#1048 11 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

I read it, and one thing leaped right out at me.....
IT PLAYS THE SONGS IN THE ORDER OF THE LIST ON THE BACK PANEL
Woof! Hope everyone likes hearing "Good times Bad Times" about a MILLION times. Have they learned nothing from "Ok who brought the dog?" and the mistakes of linear mode play? Switch the song order up with some switch hits or allow player to select.
Repetitive play is stagnant play IMO.
[quoted image]

Not correct you can select the song per ball.

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#1050 11 months ago

steve ritchie has destroyed his life's work, what were those days when he designed the terminator

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