Stern Jurassic Park 2 Custom Audio Project

Can someone clean up the references for the music files? They are requests 38 to 75. I'm not sure when (or even if) they are all used. I only recognized a handful.

The first 12 music clips are all variants on the main theme. But the original soundtrack had much more variety. The original music would call back the main theme in most of the tracks, but it look like stern pulled that portion from each of them. Which makes them sound pretty similar. (Not complaining, just observing).

Then there are an additional 26 music files with what appears to be custom creations. They all sound pretty good to me. Pretty exciting since I barely recognized any of them from existing modes (maybe 3 or 4). Perhaps these are to come? Anyway, some may be good candidates for going back to the original soundtrack though.

#52 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
Could you elaborate on that? It was taken from the scene where they see their first dinosaur. Dr. Grant just finished asking about the T-rex, and then gets light headed. Dr. Sattler tells him to catch his breath. Then Hammond says that iconic phrase as they roll up to the dinosaur. It's about 21 minutes in.
If it helps, I can put the two clips side by side.

Maybe it's just heavy Youtube compression, but it doesn't sound so 'boxed in' on other youtube clips.

#53 4 years ago

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Quoted from rubberducks:
Maybe it's just heavy Youtube compression, but it doesn't sound so 'boxed in' on other youtube clips.

Here's a comparison based on the DVD DTS audio. I am far from an audio expert, so I'm happy for any techniques that would result in better quality audio:

#54 4 years ago

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First sounds way better. Background noise is immaterial as you'll presumably be playing this over the theme. No background noise is at the expense of a ton of fidelity in the second clip ... it sounds cack.

#55 4 years ago

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Quoted from rubberducks:
First sounds way better. Background noise is immaterial as you'll presumably be playing this over the theme. No background noise is at the expense of a ton of fidelity in the second clip ... it sounds cack.

Noted. Like I said, I'm no audio expert. I'll leave it to the more capable then.

#56 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
Noted. Like I said, I'm no audio expert. I'll leave it to the more capable then.

Don't mind his complaints. The welcome clip is perfectly fine

#57 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Don't mind his complaints. The welcome clip is perfectly fine

There a bunch of music end notes... not sure what to call them. But they sort of abruptly end the music in a seamless way. I think they are used to transition from music playing to a sound effect when the ball is drained -- instead of just doing a hard cut. It might be good to overlay some call-outs on those as well.

Also, there are a lot of variants of the same call outs. I think they were done to keep the phrases fresh. I didn't notice it before, but I bet I would have noticed the redundancy if they hadn't done that.

Also, is there a way to view, import of export the video in pinbrowser? I see the individual references for them, but I have no way of playing them. If I could at least export them, it would help identify what's going on.

#58 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Don't mind his complaints. The welcome clip is perfectly fine

PM me an email address so I can give you access to the google drive with the files in it.

#59 4 years ago

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Shared drive is set up with a subtitle file in text form (to search the dialogue and find the timestamp). Also is a complete 6 channel DVD audio rip in original format.

Since the game steps outside of the movie, it seems like there may be clips of some of the cast outside the JP movie saying pinball-related things. If anyone can identify any, feel free to contribute.

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#60 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
Shared drive is set up with a subtitle file in text form (to search the dialogue and find the timestamp). Also is a complete 6 channel DVD audio rip in original format.
Since the game steps outside of the movie, it seems like there may be clips of some of the cast outside the JP movie saying pinball-related things. If anyone can identify any, feel free to contribute.

Wouldn"t it just be easier to use an old dvd ripper and work it thru virtual dub for sound comment that might be suitable for the game?
Like golblumes must go faster in the jeep scene and such?

#61 4 years ago

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Quoted from Dr-pin:
Wouldn"t it just be easier to use an old dvd ripper and work it thru virtual dub for sound comment that might be suitable for the game?
Like golblumes must go faster in the jeep scene and such?

If I'm understanding you correctly, I think that's pretty much what I did. The audio is ripped in the best format available and we have a text searchable script taken from the subtitles with time stamps.

#62 4 years ago

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Now that everyone who is working on it has access to the shared folder, just dump any preferred clips into the "Audio clips for cleanup" folder and I'll work on isolating the dialogue. I'll then put the cleaned up clips in the "clean audio clips folder"

#63 4 years ago

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For anyone wondering, the game uses 3,636 different sound clips.

I've labeled 643 of them. Only 3,000 to go.

#64 4 years ago

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Do you know what number is the welcome to jurrasic park clip in the code? That's the first and prob biggest change I need to make

#65 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
For anyone wondering, the game uses 3,636 different sound clips.

I've labeled 643. Only about 3,000 to go.

#66 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
I've labeled 643. Only about 3,000 to go.

Yeah. There are three of them in the script section. 0xDA1, 0xDA2, and 0xDA3.

The one used in the game is request number 583.

#67 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
I've labeled 643. Only about 3,000 to go.

the game will probably never use all of the clips .. having been through this type of effort with walking dead , waiting until the code is near complete , along with becoming familiar with the clips that are used is the best way to avoid spending time on labeling and replacing sounds that will never be used.

i really admire your efforts on this.

#68 4 years ago

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I'm just scratching the surface but plugging in some of the critical movie voices now. Proper welcome to jurassic for example. I'll post the code and video too.

#69 4 years ago

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Welcome to jurrasic park proper....

#70 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Taste of things to come....

God bless this community.

#71 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Welcome to jurrasic park proper....

Oh my!!!! Freaking cool!!!!

#72 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Welcome to jurrasic park proper....

Well done!

#73 4 years ago

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Great work!

#74 4 years ago

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I’ve been following along thinking “the call outs are fine, there’s no real need to do this”...then I listened to your clip in that video and I’m happy to have been wrong - great work all of you

Looking forward to putting this in place!

#75 4 years ago

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Oh hell yeah, delt31

#76 4 years ago

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Delt31, when I get around to cleaning up the audio, I'll normalize the volume on everything to keep the levels consistent.

#77 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Welcome to jurrasic park proper....

Man oh man I need this bad!!!! Way to go!

#78 4 years ago

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Tim and Delt, Check the clean folder on the share drive. I have some before and after clips. Background hum, clicks, and minor misc sound effects were removed. I have original and clean versions for direct comparison. Tell me what you think and if it's worth it.

#79 4 years ago

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https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-premium-code-with-movie-call-outs

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
Tim and Delt, Check the clean folder on the share drive. I have some before and after clips. Background hum, clicks, and minor misc sound effects were removed. I have original and clean versions for direct comparison. Tell me what you think and if it's worth it.

I'll check it out.... Heading to Steelers game

In the meantime here's the download to my first custom audio attempt....

#80 4 years ago

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Heres a link w some great ideas for audio/game events!
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/sound-mod-ideas-for-jp2

#81 4 years ago

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Quoted from Dantesmark:
Heres a link w some great ideas for audio/game events!
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/sound-mod-ideas-for-jp2

Thanks first post had some good ideas. Clever girl, welcome at plunge etc. I actually like the stock raptor stuff but I did include shoot her already....

#82 4 years ago

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Did you do the "Ian Freeze" quote for ball save (like the DE game)? No idea why, but I always liked that one.

Thanks again for all your work on this. If you're heading to TPF, I owe a couple rounds.

Brian

#83 4 years ago

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Quoted from pinghetto:
Did you do the "Ian Freeze" quote for ball save (like the DE game)? No idea why, but I always liked that one.
Thanks again for all your work on this. If you're heading to TPF, I owe a couple rounds.
Brian

I didn't but it will go in round 2

Thanks no tpf but happy to help others get some better clips in here although I will say they aren't all terrible. Some are actually good, some are absolutely hot garbage and that's what I'm looking to replace

#84 4 years ago

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In addition to “Ian freeze” I would be down for the “I think we’re back in business” how it is on the current game just with the original movie line/actor.

#85 4 years ago

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Will this eventually get released for the Pro version as well, when it’s completed?
I love what you have done so far, but I’ve just seen it’s only for Premium/LE at the moment.

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Quoted from C_Presley:
In addition to “Ian freeze” I would be down for the “I think we’re back in business” how it is on the current game just with the original movie line/actor.

I just got "I think we're back in business." Holy cow was that hard. The music isn't so bad, but the sound effect removal is a killer (Like the crashes and stuff that happens right on a key word." Only took an hour but I got a great sample.

#87 4 years ago

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Quoted from Stags6969:
Will this eventually get released for the Pro version as well, when it’s completed?
I love what you have done so far, but I’ve just seen it’s only for Premium/LE at the moment.

Not by me but maybe someone else....I own a premium.

#88 4 years ago

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What I'm finding challenging is locating all the samples in the game code that are played when raptor escapes as shoot her! Is best and it's in there by me but I didn't get them all replaced

#89 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
What I'm finding challenging is locating all the samples in the game code that are played when raptor escapes as shoot her! Is best and it's in there by me but I didn't get them all replaced

Send me the list of clips you"re currently using. I'll get them processed while yout search or identify new clips. It'll give me a chance to catch up. It's taking me about an hour or so per clip.

2 weeks later

#90 4 years ago

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Quoted from delt31:
Welcome to jurrasic park proper....

Just unboxed my Premium on Friday and this clip immediately convinced me that I need to jump in on this. Does anyone have a link to a good thread on how to use Pinball Browser, or a tutorial on how to incorporate all of this fine work?

Also, is there anything I can do to help? If nothing else, I can start listening to sound clips in the game code and listing what they are...

#91 4 years ago

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Quoted from mskoenen:
Just unboxed my Premium on Friday and this clip immediately convinced me that I need to jump in on this. Does anyone have a link to a good thread on how to use Pinball Browser, or a tutorial on how to incorporate all of this fine work?
Also, is there anything I can do to help? If nothing else, I can start listening to sound clips in the game code and listing what they are...

We are working very diligently on this. Using a lot of high end resources to get shoe really great and clean clips. It's a tremendously neutral task. Each clip is averaging over an hour. But we are making a ton of progress. I think people will be happy with the results.

#92 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
We are working very diligently on this. Using a lot of high end resources to get shoe really great and clean clips. It's a tremendously neutral task. Each clip is averaging over an hour. But we are making a ton of progress. I think people will be happy with the results.

Will the resources be available for someone to do a Pro version?

#93 4 years ago

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I second this question

#94 4 years ago

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Cant wait guys as the first round was fun.

Drinks on me one day

Thanks again.

#95 4 years ago

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Quoted from Stags6969:
Will the resources be available for someone to do a Pro version?

I would like to do a pro version. We are pretty focused on getting something out right now. The hard part, as you can imagine, is getting the audio clips. I feel like I have an added part time job on top of my full time job. Literally hours using spectral analysis to clean up the audio files as best as they can be. It's very manual.

In comparison to isolating and cleaning the clips, moving them to a pro version of the code seems simple.

#96 4 years ago

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Quoted from hawkmoon77:
I would like to do a pro version. We are pretty focused on getting something out right now. The hard part, as you can imagine, is getting the audio clips. I feel like I have an added part time job on top of my full time job. Literally hours using spectral analysis to clean up the audio files as best as they can be. It's very manual.
In comparison to isolating and cleaning the clips, moving them to a pro version of the code seems simple.

How easily is your hard work transferred to newer firmware as it’s released?

#97 4 years ago

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Keep up the great work... just got the JP Premium last week and using actual movie callouts will make this SO much better.

#98 4 years ago

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Quoted from Jsiegerman:
Keep up the great work... just got the JP Premium last week and using actual movie callouts will make this SO much better.

They are much better, just the beginning kicks ass . I love the piano alt ending.

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