(Topic ID: 200036)
Gilroy, CA
Quoted from TheLaw:Damn, I can't believe that one is so much worse than the others.
One thing that surprised me is that the color of the reflection is different on each one.
Quoted from Paul_from_Gilroy:One thing that surprised me is that the color of the reflection is different on each one.
which one would you recommend?
Yeah, I should have included a standard piece of glass before I took down the tripod and everything :-/ At this point, my personal favorite is PDI glass. I like the anti-reflective properties and the nicely beveled edges.
They all look pretty similar to me.
The only difference I know of is that JJP includes invisiglass with their LE's while Stern doesn't include their HD glass with LE's...
Quoted from Vdrums:Is the answer "the cheapest one?"
They all look very close from the pics... At least on my iPhone.
I have all three on my games now. The glass price is near the same for all three. The shipping is not. For me I saved $$$ going with http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/502-6845-00. The problem is that they can't keep it in stock. I bought four pieces and the total shipping was $9.99. Great shipping price.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:The only difference I know of is that JJP includes invisiglass with their LE's while Stern doesn't include their HD glass with LE's...
I hope there's enough of a price difference to afford a piece?
Quoted from PinRob:I can’t tell either
Zoom in and focus on the reflections of the top and bottom lights (above the M on the album, and on the apron). It seems as the detail through the top of the reflection gets progressively better as you go from left to right in OP's photo sequence. The detail of Creech's left cheek becomes more clear on the PF, and the detail on the apron font sticks out more. My $0.02.
Wow I am amazed we can't really see the difference; at least I really can't.
If the shipping is $9.99 and all other things being equal (let's assume they are), Steve is about to get my glass business. I need 3 sheets but my budget is $500, so it's a prett done deal..
I have Invisiglass on my WoZ and Dialed In. I hate having to use a special cleaner. It looks fantastic, but it's a hassle, especially when kids are playing my games almost every day.
Do all the glasses need special cleaners? If one doesn't, there's your winner.
Quoted from jar155:I have Invisiglass on my WoZ and Dialed In. I hate having to use a special cleaner. It looks fantastic, but it's a hassle, especially when kids are playing my games almost every day.
Do all the glasses need special cleaners? If one doesn't, there's your winner.
"Special cleaner" meaning ammonia free glass cleaner? That's not that exotic is it?
Quoted from TheLaw:"Special cleaner" meaning ammonia free glass cleaner? That's not that exotic is it?
It's a pain. It streaks on the other machines more than regular glass cleaner. So it's annoying to use. I like the foaming glass cleaner that works WAY better. Plus, you can use a paper towel on the other games, not on games with HD/PDI/Invisiglass.
Also, cleaning is harder on these glasses. You have to work much harder to get little spots out.
Quoted from TheLaw:"Special cleaner" meaning ammonia free glass cleaner? That's not that exotic is it?
I use Sparkle and micro-fiber cloth on all my pinball glass. Not a big deal. A plus is that it doesn't get used-up on non-pinball stuff and slowly disappear (like every bottle of Windex I ever owned) 
Quoted from Paul_from_Gilroy:I use Sparkle and micro-fiber cloth on all my pinball glass. Not a big deal. A plus is that it doesn't get used-up on non-pinball stuff and slowly disappear (like every bottle of Windex I ever owned)
+1
Sparkle works great and is dirt cheap ...
Quoted from jar155:I have Invisiglass on my WoZ and Dialed In. I hate having to use a special cleaner. It looks fantastic, but it's a hassle, especially when kids are playing my games almost every day.
Do all the glasses need special cleaners? If one doesn't, there's your winner.
You can use the same cleaner on all your glass, it's just the windex with ammonia you want to avoid, just get some natural stuff at target and use that for all your games
Quoted from jar155:It's a pain. It streaks on the other machines more than regular glass cleaner. So it's annoying to use. I like the foaming glass cleaner that works WAY better. Plus, you can use a paper towel on the other games, not on games with HD/PDI/Invisiglass.
Huh...I use foaming non ammonia glass cleaner on mine and it seems to work fine on all my glass.
Quoted from jar155:It's a pain. It streaks on the other machines more than regular glass cleaner. So it's annoying to use. I like the foaming glass cleaner that works WAY better. Plus, you can use a paper towel on the other games, not on games with HD/PDI/Invisiglass.
Also, cleaning is harder on these glasses. You have to work much harder to get little spots out.
That foaming stuff (Sprayway I think it is) is fantastic. Not on delicate anti-reflective glass, but for windows and stuff like that. It actually gets the hazy film off the inside of a windshield!
Quoted from Paul_from_Gilroy:Here's a reflection of one of the overhead lights, zoomed-in. Left to right these are Stern HD, Invisiglass, and PDI...
Thank you for this informative test. Based on reflections of overhead light, which can be important in some environments, my ranking would be:
1. PDI
2. Invisiglass
3. Stern HD
Quoted from delt31:Wait people can see a difference in these three? Seriously? As someone who is crazy with these things stern just won my business. The difference if any is def not worth the pdi price.
Really? The difference seems pretty significant to me.
Quoted from gweempose:Really? The difference seems pretty significant to me.
Yeah, it seems easily identifiable that from left to right you have worst, better, best.
Quoted from Rum-Z:Yeah, it seems easily identifiable that from left to right you have worst, better, best.
Are you guys looking on a computer screen? Maybe my phone isn't doing it justice
Quoted from PinRob:How sharp really are the edges of Stern’s glass?
Like normal pinball glass that comes with a pin....
Quoted from AUKraut:Like normal pinball glass that comes with a pin....
Ghostbusters came with glass that cut me. Is Stern still doing those sharper edges?
Quoted from jar155:Ghostbusters came with glass that cut me. Is Stern still doing those sharper edges?
The hd glass i have is much sharper than my invisaglass and regular glass....
I made this video awhile ago comparing the three. I think they’re the same for the most part. Stern wins for me because of the cost factor.
Quoted from jar155:Ghostbusters came with glass that cut me. Is Stern still doing those sharper edges?
That's how the designer intended it.
Need all three on the screen at the same time or at least some sort of insurance that the camera settings were the same and no sort of auto light balance or focus was on...
Also, are the reflections from the glass or from the playfield surface?
Quoted from bigd1979:The hd glass i have is much sharper than my invisaglass and regular glass....
Yeah if you look at the anti reflective glass for artwork, these is a loss of clarity if you pull it away from the picture. These glasses should probably be judged on sharpness, color correctness and reflections.
Quoted from jar155:Difference is minimal. The big issue is whether or not you need it for your own situation. With my lighting, it's not a very big upgrade for me. In some other locations, the games are begging for it.
I think I need it for my spot - I only have one game with this type of glass - TH, and you absolutely can tell a massive difference, looking either right or left to either game to the side. I'd love to add some to my DW which has unbelievable reflection problems
Quoted from John_I:Yeah if you look at the anti reflective glass for artwork, these is a loss of clarity if you pull it away from the picture. These glasses should probably be judged on sharpness, color correctness and reflections.
And how sharp the actual edge of the glass is like bigd1979 was talking about 
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