This will fail.
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Quoted from wontwa:Was going to try to take the high road here since I don't think that pinsiders are who this is marketed toward, but I really didn't like it (for the price). It was slightly smaller and lower to the ground than the standard Pro directly next to it, and felt a lot like a cheap child's pinball machine. Was very light. The playfield quality itself looked really nice, and the shots felt a little better than a Zizzle or whatever. I was really turned off by the fact that I hit two of the drop targets for the Doc Ock shot, then the ball ricocheted from the left loop guide into that area from the left side, sneaking around the drop targets - there was no rubber ring in the left of the Doc Ock area to prevent that from happening. I thought the LED display looked terrible. I wasn't a fan of pressing a standard small button to launch the ball. The ramp shots were wobbly and didn't feel good. Just felt cheap all around.
I did like that there was a ball save, and lane changes, and some of the sounds from the 07 Stern Spiderman and some of the features you might find on a standard game - but I wanted to stop playing it after the second ball. For the price I would just get any number of 2-3K price point games, or would be more satisfied with an EM.
Your mileage may vary?
I think we all believed it would turn out to be a $3,800 piece of crap.
Quoted from jungle:I think if you shop around this is going to be well under 4k. I'm more of a JJP fan than Stern but I think they have a real winner on their hands here. Great looking machine and great features at the price. And it could be that it matters little if pinsiders don't buy it. We don't have the psyche of many customers in the outside world. I bet plenty of parents don't want their children to get used to putting money in games. Just one example.
I think many of these customers in the outside world will be shocked to find out that +/- 4K only gets you Stern's crappiest game.
I would be surprised if this turns out to be a successful venture for them.
Quoted from jungle:But I actually think Stern don't want pinsiders to like this.
Mission Accomplished.
Quoted from Rondogg:I played it yesterday for the first time. A wonderful machine for $1000.
Would be much more attractive if it offered something that othe machines dont, like open programming or a catalog of mods you can buy and install. That might make a $2k price tag.
In other words, this is a complete failure at $3,500-$4,000.
Quoted from TRAMD:"Sweet spot" or "can't make them fast enough but don't care because they aren't turning any profit" range?
This game isn't for most of us on pinside. Most of us would prefer to have a better, older game or put the money towards a better, more expensive game. This is marketed towards people that want a pinball in their home, currently have zero, want a NIB with low chance for problems and aren't willing to drop six grand or go to the trouble of buying a nice used one.
Understood, but at 4K I see another "The Pin".
I don't envy the folks whose job it is to sell them.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:They did not have a SMVE but I couldn't think of a good reason why someone would buy this thing.
Agreed. The price is quite silly for what you get.
I doubt they will sell very many, but we will see.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:Noted - I guess it's not for me - but is it relatively similar to a SMVE in terms of play ?
Unfortunately, it's not close.
Quoted from chippe01:Going in a different direction, what would be a good topper for this? I don't like toppers, but my cats love to jump on top of the back box, and I don't want them up on my brand new machine.
Don't let them in the room with the machines.
Quoted from chippe01:Since I'm in a 1 bedroom apartment, that's not easy. 4 in the bedroom and one in the living room, vs. 3 cats. And this one, I have no idea where it's going, so it will have a temporary home near the kitchen until I can clear out a space.
I suppose I can get a machine cover as a temporary solution, or maybe a permanent one.
I hear you.
The cover might be your best bet.
Quoted from akm:I would be OK with seeing other home pins in this style. I just hope they don't go the Transformers/Avengers route and simply re-theme the existing design. I like the idea of new layouts.
New layouts cost money and Stern does not like to spend money.
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