your interpretation of my statement seems to be confused, and after reading it again I can see it is a little confusing.

Couple hour late on what? My statement reads:

Yuck...hope nobody does this as in....
I hope this title is not made by any pinball company. I have nothing against any of the current pinball companies and hope to own something from each someday.
I just think the Harry Potter franchise sucks. Hopefully that clears up my reading ability and my reaction. But then again that's just my opinion.
However just to clarify more

If Harry Potter were made I think it would fit the jjp style more, and they'd do a better job with it. However it would be years before the first game was delivered, not to mention that those years wouldn't start until after the official reveal. Even diehard hp fans might lose interest by then. Nothing against jjp its just a reality. Anticipation is a great thing, but when it comes to pinball I want what I can get now. I've done the waiting game and it's not for me.
To clarify even more:
I won't be buying a Harry Potter pin no matter who makes it.

I don't hate it, I'm indifferent towards it.

Code, animations, and theme are all winners.

Playfield design isn't. Major problem.

Leads to indifference.

They would certainly sell a ton. I'd be suprised if JK Rowling lets this license go for a pinball machine. From what I've read she's pretty difficult to work with regards to licensing.

Roger Sharpe has said she isn't interested in licensing it for pinball, but if she changes her mind, he would get to broker the deal.

Roger's son works for Stern now.

If it gets made...it aint gonna be JJP.

Roger Sharpe interview where he talks about the Harry Potter license.

http://pavlovpinball.com/pinball-licencing-101-how-much-why-and-harry-potter/

What in God's name are you talking about, man? The films where epic! And if you disagree with me then, once again, I will have to fight you.

But I agree 100% with what you said about Dumbledore on a spring though...

I’d like a JJP either wide like Woz or standard like DI.

I have given up on Stern at this point, what they did with Avengers, SW, GOT make me wonder if they can do anything justice. I mean I love TWD as a generic zombie pin but that game has little to do with the TV show characters are not represented at all in the game.

Hope this isn't true, only because I want jjp to do it instead. I can't go through another disappointment like star wars with any more major licenses going to stern. Some themes are better for stern, and others are better for jjp. This is totally a jjp game.

The problem with Star Wars wasn't Stern's fault. JJP would have had the same issues.

Harry Potter is a well known theme

So I imagine it will receive same treatment as Stern’s version of Star Wars

If JJP did a Harry Potter pin, no guarantee it would be a great pin. Only guarantee is that it would be terribly expensive. Stern would at least deliver a pro and a premium type of pin. I couldn't be less interested, though. Harry Potter is extremely popular among all ages so I would expect all pin manufactures trying to secure the license. Only problem would be if the license is very expensive. That might translate to a stripped down pin like Star Wars with strict limitations of art and content. I think it's more fun to have more flexible themes that are not such a high profile. Less expectations and more artistic freedoms usually translate in a really fun pin.

Might be an unpopular opinion but I think a game focused on the Universal ride with Quiddich thrown in would make a much better machine than something bloated with 8 movies. You could add most of the main characters and the objectives would be fairly straight forward with the opportunity to be creative. There are over 4500 pages and about 20 hours of movie to cover. Doesn't make sense to comprise all of that material on a 3-10 minute game without being very confusing.

Without reading the whole thread yet- it is a place just about any out of towners go to this time of year, if they were in SoCal, and locals alike like me.

I will be there in the next 7 days just don't know which yet. Could just be that, tourism.

How do you figure that?

I'm not a huge fan of Stern's Star Wars as I don't think it has good theme integration and doesn't really tell a story. Rather, it's a fast and frenetic shooter and that's cool for what it is. But, I'm pretty sure Stern designed it that way.

I heard it's Sterns.... and it's Harry Potter Versus Godzilla..

Ritchie has said more than once that Star Wars was unpleasant to make, due to restrictions from Lucasfilm. He had to make the best of a bad situation.

A designer from JJP would have ran into the same issues.

With Stern visiting this we would see the same disappointment like we did with GOT.
Too many expectations with tremendous theme but poorly executed under glass but I know
code carried it as we all know. JJP would need this one to do right. A lot of theme to work with
especially on HP.

There's no way a jjp pin wouldn't have more toys, magnets, etc than a stern SW. Sorry, not buying that excuse other than when it comes to the artwork. Potc is a Disney license and they approved the toys, and the machine looks better art wise as well. Can't tell me stern couldn't have even added magnets due to restrictions. Come on, it was cost cutting, period. They relied too much on video assets over play field features on SW. I like the SW game, but the play field and wow factor was disappointing for most, and it went from a must have theme, to a maybe someday purchase used. I can't imagine a HP license being any cheaper than SW, and if that's the case, expect something similar to the SW play field wow factor if stern does it.

think of all the cool stuff they could have pulled from for the game of thrones franchise for the game and look at what we got. Sure its a fun enough game but lacks so much in toys and art. then look at how bare bones lame star wars is. if a theme is a killer seller on theme alone it will probably be stripped down by stern. Gary is on video saying how the john williams score alone will sell a ton of star wars lol.

im not a stern hater this is just a reality

if you want a tricked out harry potter hope for jjp having the license imo

I'm not arguing whether or not SW owners are happy or enjoy the game. I enjoy playing it. My only gripe is how there really isn't much there compared to what could have been. The pro isn't even worth mentioning, but even the premium/le at $7-9k was lacking ball interaction and was a disappointment compared to what most people hoped for. It's still fun, but most of that fun imo is from the video and sounds. Ultimately fun is the goal in all pinball, but at these prices, I want more wow factor and physical ball interaction with innovative toys. No guarantee that a jjp game of SW or HP would be better, but I'd place my bets on more going on in the play field than a stern version. Not bashing stern,(love my Met &acdc) but the eye test is hard to fail on BOM. It's just an opinion.

I guess that takes JJP out of the equation then.

Well, whether you buy it or not is irrelevant to me. My point is made.

You're actually using Pirates as a counterpoint? Disney dissected and emasculated that license. It's total crap, missing any actual scenes and the score.

Sheesh...did you back the wrong horse, johnny.

There is no doubt that if JJP had this license (or any other license Stern license) the game would be full of many more features and toys....clearly their history of build quality, design, layout, code, etc are on a different level than Stern.....that being said it comes with a significant price tag....JJP Harry Potter would be awesome...Stern HP who knows?

Lol. I agree it's really hurting without video assets. However, with SW you're paying$7k for the DVD assets you already have. You get a couple ramps, loops, spring action figure and a hyperloop that is cool, but under utilized. My opinion matches the majority of people looking forward to SW and we're instantly bummed. Look back on the SW thread. I think jjp potc while missing video assets, still managed a better pinball experience. A PINBALL experience. Time will tell which is the better game. Again, opinions vary. That's ok. Some guys want a world under glass, others care more about rules, or theme alone. I don't want to pay just for assets I already own on Blu-ray, that's all. I want more for $7-9k.

Looking back the the SW thread people care aboot SW, it isn't the same with POTC because no one really give a shit. It's a popcorn munching series that everyone forgot aboot 6 years ago. Certian(t)ly doesn;t carry the emotions of the man-babies that gew up with either trilogy.

We all have out opinions, and I disagree that JJPOTC is more the PINBALL experience. SW is mean & lean and an ass kicker with a lot of strategery involved in the scoring; not for everyone for sure. That a lot of what makes pinball interesting to me...other people may feel having "more stuff" makes it "more pinball;" I wouldn't just lay out either as a fact though.

I'll agree with you that it's all just opinion as I previously stated. In regards to the SW thread comment, I simply was stating how looking back at the comments around the release, it's clear how much of a disappointment the play field, and artwork were to most people. Has no bearing on the license compared to potc. SW is as big as it gets, and HP is too, and if stern made a HP without much of a play field like SW, then I think the level of disappointment would rival SW. Again, while I enjoy playing SW, it just wasn't what others including myself hoped it would be after all the hype, and two year development. I just don't want to see another huge license end up that way, and I'd rather place my bets on a jjp version. Again, just an opinion of a huge SW fan that probably rivals other SW fans that love the outcome of SW. It's all good, after all, it's just a game.

Huh? Cursed child was a play, and horrible at that. Are you talking about Fantastic Beasts?

I feel ya. It came out great for me, so I'm ready either way. Neither company is perfect in any way, I just hope for the best.

I agree with all of that. But you still left out 'fun' which is what my post was in regards to so I assume we agree.

The real question is, what's the longest you've gone without posting about 'toys'? Can't be more than a day.

I enjoy playing all of the JJP pins for a game or two. After that they get old quick.

My wife is HP crazy. If a pin does materialize, there's a extremely likely chance it's going to end up in my house. I would much prefer I didn't end up with a 10k boring box of lights. Stern FTW.

Seriously.

But hey, these are just games and half (or more) of the people are buying them more for the toys & lighting than the play.
We all have out criteria

I feel that way about many of the Stern machines. Mostly due to the similar feel of the layouts. I'm glad we have a variety of manufacturers to appeal to different tastes.

Man we went from hypothetical theme opening post to JJP vs. Stern in record time on this one!

Lol. Watch it be deeproot with the license. Lmao

Could it be that they went just for the fun of it???? J.K.R.said 3 years ago,she would never give license to a pin ball mach.She also stated that she did not approve of the places pinball mach.were played,so she didn't want her work shown in that format.END OF THREAD>Period...

Come come now, this is Pinside, everything is a clue! Don;t worry aboot the fact nothing has ever actually been a clue before this.

Maybe the next games is a surprise. Did anyone know about Mustang or Supreme? It would be fun if we just had something we did not see coming.

As Cursed Child was a play it is performed in theatres, Fantastic Beasts is a film shown in cinemas.

Don't understand your issue?

Why would I buy the blandest pinball machine?

Is there a link with info on her saying this or is this urban legend?

Stern can hit a homerun on a pin fun factor or it could be a total bust.
If JKR just compared Jjp pins to stern pins as far as how they are built, I think that would end their decision on who they would choose. Can't deny the quality of Jjp vs stern in pin quality.
Like Woz or not, it set the bar in many ways.

Hear hear!

How can we make sure that JKR personally inspects JJP machines, so she can really see the difference before signing that licensing deal?

Should we just dump a bunch of surplus Hobbits in her driveway? Or do we need to get her a private Chopper flight from NYC to the factory next time she's in NYC?

I think if she really got under the hood of Dialed in, JKR would realize there is only ONE choice for her pinball license.

There's got to be a way. It might not be too late to prove to JKR that there really IS a difference!

This will work. I heard that the POTC people were about to go with Deep Root for their next game, until Johnny Depp was forced to live inside a Dialed In cabinet for 2 days with nothing but a sack of granola and a handle of Jack Daniels. It worked!

Considering how she has had a disdain for pinball in her namesake, Im pretty sure she and her team would look at all aspects of any pinball manufacturer before she lets her license be utilized.
If she picks Stern all we could hope for is they do it justice. If its JJP, I personally would be more hopeful.

Well there's always hope.