Also, best is subjective, especially over time.

When I was a beginner I loved Attack From Mars, Medieval Madness, Monster Bash, etc. But as I became a better player those games became tiresome and and boring to me. The goals were too easy and the shots were too similar.

Now I'm finding that the tougher games are far more interesting. I loved Alice Cooper for years as my favorite game. So challenging and no single game has made me a better player more than that one. The ruleset on Avengers is so deep and complex that I had to read and study it to understand it. You don't have to do that on Bally/Williams of the 90s, so maybe that's why I love Avengers so much.

OK, back to work.

How do you know if the coil stops are bad?

I’m having an issue with my ST that one flipper is all the sudden too weak not sure what is the issue.

Coil stop is the 1st thing I would check. Do you have any metal filaments in the cabinet under it?

He was just about to pay that sales fee today. Right after he mailed that key.

I understand the GZ love but I don’t agree with it. It’s wonderful but I simply don’t want to play it- just like EHOH for that matter.

I sold my GZLE after a couple mos. It was for unplanned financial reason and inventory control. I’m supposed to still be firmly entrenched and miss it and be trying to figure out a way to grab another one for home but I’m not.
Maiden? DP? STH? TWD’s? METs? I always found a way to reacquire for stints at home. With GZ, there is just something missing.

Yup...he just needs to post some positive comments on pinside and then he'll get that done.

Look, Postmaster General LeJoy...his being a flake doesn't make your postage go up! And the sentence structure of your post is boring and barely has any letters in it. D+. Get a life!

If you think your game set up causes some of the issues, change how you have set up. One of the joys of ownership.

Homie, I doubt anyone downvoted you for your thoughts on the game lol. Your opinion was fine and you backed it up with well thought out and balanced reasons. Your childish "fight me" attitude, your questionable pinside marketplace behavior, and the out-of-left field simile you got moderated for, are the reasons for the downvotes.

Speaking of your simile, by way of being descriptive writing, it was lazy at best. The fact that some sticky, unwashed corner of your mind thought that it was both apt and funny, denotes probable bigotry on your part, but definitely demonstrates your painful level of ignorance on female anatomy. I speak with authority on this matter: as a middle school teacher I have yet to hear even one 7th boy say something this dumb. In your future attempts at anatomical humor, I suggest that you will appear less uneducated if you stick to writing jokes about your micro[removed].

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Oh man, I missed whatever Mr. Personality Plus posted that got moderated for vulgarity. This guy is fun.

So, with the theory being used for this thread(post title), that would mean for example, the #1 pick in this year’s NFL draft, is already the greatest of all time! Doesn’t make sense does it? Like anything else new, time will tell, once it has a few years under it’s belt. There has to be a time period for providing itself. Godzilla pin has not been around long enough yet.

It may end up there, but it may not. I’d enjoy the new Rush pin to be #1, but realistically I’m not expecting it to be.

Not sure I'm a troll, but there are some negative aspects to the game.
1) The bridge is poorly engineered and many have had issues with excessive wear very early on.
2) The tower has a tendency to drop balls SDTM.
3) Not everyone likes Blue Oyster Cult.
Fanboys and resellers have given a lot of phony 10.0 ratings to this game, but I'm of the mind that no game is 100% perfect. Despite these flaws, I could see how some people would still consider this #1. All the modern games are so much deeper than the superpins of the 90's, and yet its that nostalgia that makes me favor them over Godzilla.

Remove the coil stop and see if the nub is still attached. You may find it floating in the solenoid where the plunger is.

It's no Target Alpha.

Nope not a troll at all. Every pinball game has issues especially out of the gate and many are correctable over time. Not looking for the ppl that said its not the greatest game ever. Looking for one of the ppl that said its a bad game. Did you? And if that's your reason why your reason is very flawed.

Who has had early wear on the bridge mech??? Show of hands??

Our bridge is fine.. Works great!

None here, when I got the game I thought it was hitting and put a clear rubber dot under bridge. Still on after 650+ plays, no damage.

Yeah, that’s a new complaint to me. Mine has been just fine.

I have about 600 plays and my game is great. Wicked fun. I did order some extra coil stops and a few other things from Pinball Life. Of course I forgot the locks that Hayfarmer showed me. I actually have a local locksmith about 15 minutes from my house though and he was able to match up the key so and now I have a spare.

Definitely one of my favorite pins in recent times but no way to say if it's the best ever. Regardless, in the end it's just a game and I don't believe in bolted to the floor, so it will eventually be sold like any other pin.

Man I want to believe in this philosophy SO BAD, yet I struggle to ever sell a machine. And I'm not a hoarder. I just love them all.

It's all subjective. I have been impressed with Godzilla from day 1 at Expo. I also agree that eventually I will sell them all for another pin and have been tempted lately as I enjoy playing most pro models as any premium or LE. Heck, I LOVE jurrasic homepin.

I will say I play Stranger Things more than Godzilla for some reason.

They’re all fun Just play!

We rotate machines from our B/W stock on our floor. The Shadow (I have not really played the shadow that much) is the one people keep saying to please not rotate out.

The better question should be is Medieval Madness even a top 5 game anymore.......I could think of 10 games id personally rather have them MM.

MM was released right before pinball lost favour with the masses. It’s a fantastic game of course, but it was also undeniably “tops” for the next number of years (decade? More than?) while pinball companies were cutting costs to survive. So it rightfully amassed thousands of “best game ever” ratings over time.
There’s so much competition now for any new release that it’s pretty crazy to have anything knock it from its perch.
Especially when you have some people who will throw it a “1” just to tumble the numbers.
I personally don’t think I could ever pick a single game as best ever because no matter the game, I need some variety after awhile. But I do think that Godzilla might be the current MM.

I’m good at selling them. My problems come from the games I like playing. I’m not bolting them to the floor, but I won’t sell a game I enjoy playing. I’ve made the mistake of thinking I’ll just find another copy if I miss it, but that hasn’t held true.

I think instead of best ever it's best ever so far. GZ is excellence in pinball as it's fun for the newcomer but you like it more after months of ownership- that's what make a good pin great. But then there's IMDN that's great too! Then DP...I want them ALL. But if you had to have just one pin right now I'd get GZ

Where is this list of the 30 trolls?
People use this troll word allot and do not think they understand what it means.

Hard to believe only 2 node boards under it mounted to the underside playfield when iron maiden has more . I guess 2 bash toys and a building mech is not to demanding or complicated. Where is the beef/guts $$ . Where is the 7800-10500 worth of materials $$ Perhaps the manual is worth at least 2k of any of these homepin Pro?prem?le models 2500 for the rest of the components and perhaps 2500 Per Pin to The license . only at 7k leaves only 800 profit on a pro . Now i understand . may BTTF Homepin pros go at 8200 Prem at 10k and the le Homepin can fetch 12500 one of 1500 Limited's why stop at 1000 Limited's ..

As long as it’s not MM - most overrated game of all time.

its not expensive . they all became too expensive! Not every game is worth a Medival Madness Or Monster Bash Type money to me is all.
Makes all the titles we could not afford before affordable.?

Add Godzilla to that.
Just look at what you get in a GnrLE at 10500 and compare to Zilla#LE . Nothing compares /nothing compares TOO YOU

Agreed. Totally overrated. Now someone sell me this overrated piece of garbage for cheap. I’ll do you a favor

Sold out.

Do you think I will be happy with the GZ Pro? Or should I wait 6 months for Premium?

i do not. get a premium if not worried about money. the pro was no fun after i got hold of an LE . but the LE upgraded speakers sound worse than SW premium speakers /do not ask me why / The GdLe speakers look better and are kenwood but alas SW prem sounds better . I told the owner he should swap em out ..Lol
Anyway back to prem over Pro.
The Premium if i wanted one . In my honest opinion it is more fun with the extras you do get

Target Alpha and his brothers disagree
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if you own them and have them sit next to each other , you would then scratch your head in wonder. Whats the big fin deal here. Fan boy much.
Jeez man there is nothing in it . Look under it . Look on top.
Do the same with a Gnr LE.
Where's the beef
Stern is Cashing Out big time, Good for them but bad for those who can't afford it .
as far as what you get in both ,you can NOT Compare it / The cost to Build one and the other are so far off and it is obvious

Not talking Whats more fun. I was Comparing Costs to build and to buy !

Well, I found one.

I wouldn't call him a troll. I'd just say he's a few node boards short of a fun game.

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Buy the Pro now, have fun and learn the game. Play a Premium in the meantime and decide in 6 months. Anyway, that’s my plan.

Agreed, I have a pro and love it. I’ve played the premium, and it’s sweet but do not regret getting the pro at all

I mean it's no Whirlwind or Skateball, let's not go crazy here, but the few games I played on it were fun

Agreed. GZ is an amazing game, but it's no Surf 'n Safari, let's not go nuts here.

If you can get the Pro, get the Pro. Then in 6 months when you can get a Premium, get it, decide which you like better, and sell the other one.

1. Buy Pro
2. Buy Premium
3. Sell the lesser game (by your standards) for more than you paid.
4. PROFIT!

I ordered a GZ pro and mirror blades. Flipper Fidelity. Stoked.

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So GZ Pro doesn't have Super Train? I just notice this on a IE live stream.