My Pro is supposed to be delivered Monday. Woot! But I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a Premium Translight? I really like the Prem. Translight, but don't actually feel like I need all the extra features. The Pro is enough for me on this one.

Does anyone sell them, or are there any owners that have a spare for some reason?

Damn! That sucks balls. Good luck man. Can't imagine how disappointed I'd be, if that happened to me.

There's been some talk of Godzilla figures. So here's mine. A Neca movie-poster Godzilla. Fits just about perfectly in the back left where the plastic was.

Figure required no modifications whatsoever to fit nicely, but I did end up painting his fins blue, but you can't really see them anyway.

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Still figuring out what I want to do about Mecha though.

Double-sided tape under the feet, and it's slightly braced by the lock nut by his foot. Very stable, but I do have to remove him if I put the pf up. Not a big deal.

I have found that changing the pitch and level, even slightly, has a huge impact on how smooth the loop is and also how the ball drops to the upper flipper, and how easy the loop is to make. Couldn't believe how much of a difference a few turn of the leg levelers made.

So don't forget pitch in the equation. Think I'm at about 6.7 now.

Here's a dirty secret...the gameplay experience is almost identical between the Premium and Pro models. I liken it to the difference between Elwin's JP Pro and JP Premium. Although the building moving up and down is fun to watch, it doesn't really affect gameplay that much. The only thing is that depending on what level the building is at, sometimes the right ramp returns to the left flipper, instead of always returning to the opposite (aka right) flipper like it does on the Pro. Also, the Pro model still has a spinner and 3 standup targets in the Mechagodzilla area, they just don't rotate. And Mecha catching the ball on his tummy is fun, but again doesn't affect gameplay.

Even though in general I'm more of a Premium guy (I want all the toys and mechs I can get!), I'm honestly perfectly happy with the Pro. I think the massive push toward everyone wanting a Premium is more that they want the "best" version of this awesome game, versus any actual gameplay improvements that the Premium provides. I think people waiting for a Premium, or wanting to pay way over MSRP for one, should just go ahead and get a Pro while they are still in stock. You'll have just as much fun, and you may find a better use for the extra thousands you'd spend on the Premium.

And that's where they went wrong with LZ! Less flow on the Pro, since it's missing a ramp, and no main toy or mech.

Okay, I think maybe you are a bit confused? Both the Pro and the Prem/LE have that right-side Mecha orbit. And yes, that is a fun shot for sure. In fact, I'd argue that area is even more flowy on the Pro since the spinner shot does a really fast loop around, versus bashing mecha first, and then dropping on the Prem/LE pf. Unless, maybe I misunderstood you?

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Also, I'd argue that a lot of you Premium/LE buyers are the ones doing the justifying! Just depends which side you are standing on!

My perspective is that the gameplay is nearly identical between the two versions. And yes, there certainly are reasons to buy the Prem, just as there are reasons to stick with the Pro. I went with the Prem. on JP because I wanted the Raptor Pit and interactive T-Rex. I went with the Pro on GZ because it was in stock at less than MSRP, and it was nearly the same game as the Prem. I think getting a Premium at MSRP is definitely a good choice, but I think paying thousands over MSRP for it is silly, when the Pro is so good. If we were talking a game like LZ, where the Pro is clearly super inferior, then that'd be a different story.

Yeah, I tweaked my scoop kickout power down a bit. That makes a dead bounce to the right flipper super-reliable for me. It's still going to fast to cradle up, but it does set you up for most of the upper and left shots.

As others have said, adjust the level. In particular, at the back. Also, your pf sounds a little steep too me. I had my pf at 6.9 and dropping to 6.7 made a big difference in the ease of hitting the loop. Made the loop a lot smoother too when it was made.

I actually went down to 150! Still kicks out fine, and I figure the less power the better when it comes to preventing damage.

No. Order a Premium, and then pick up a Pro now until the Premium ships next year. No reason to pay extra for the LE, when it's identical to the Premium. And no reason to pay extra for a used Premium, when Pros are currently in stock.

Setup makes a big difference in smoothness of loops and ramps, not sure how much it affects outlane drains. I don't think GZ is particularly brutal in that regard, but it's certainly not a cakewalk of a game. My Johnny Mnemonic was much worse when it came to outlane drains; as soon as you hit the slings, it was almost always bye bye. You could always move the posts down if it's too brutal in that regard. Nothing wrong with setting up the game so that you can enjoy it. And anything over 1 bil is very good. And while getting in the 1 bil club isn't hard for a good player, I still think that's respectable.

Also, I believe doing well in Bridge or Tank MB will award an EB, if I'm not mistaken? So worth more than just points, also you can charge the spinner up during MBs too. Which you can save for later, so that's useful. And you can progress Tesla towers as well. So IDK, more than just playing a MB for a MB's sake.

As I've said before, this is one Pro I don't need the LE/Premium to be perfectly happy. Normally, I'm a Premium guy, but for GZ I'm very satisfied with the Pro. To the point that I think I'd choose it over a Premium. I think I'd miss the pro-only mecha-spinner loop, if I upgraded to a Prem/LE. Plus, I like the mecha-spinner being available all the time.

And I agree, no hang-ups on the Pro, fewer stuck balls, and a clean wallop that doesn't always go SDTM.

A lot of Prem/LE owners have reported the ball hanging up behind the building, which doesn't seem to ever happen on the Pro version. Same owners have also reported the ball getting stuck on Mecha's arm and shoulder. And all the reports of wallop SDTMs seem to mostly come from Prem/LE owners again. Just what I've seen from reading this thread daily for months.

I mean he is the designer of the game. You might want to give what he says a little more credence and show him a little more respect. Just sayin.

Are you talking about the revese-building wallop shot? If so, the latest software update gives you a ball save when that happens. I have had it where a slow rolling ball doesn't trigger the wallop, but it's rare.

Widely reported, but I've been seeing it more on the Prem/LEs. Don't know what the fix is.

Anyone have an inkling of when the next code update is? I'm feeling like I'm ready for those wizard/mini-wizard modes in the center that aren't coded yet. The game as awesome as it is, is starting to feel a little samey to me. I'd like to have some more/deeper goals to aim for.

I'll add that Beatles comes with white rubber, and man I can't believe how clean the game stays. I literally barely ever need to wipe it down, there is so much less residue on the pf just from having white instead of black rubber.

I find using wifi updating to be easiest. Works well for me and takes like 20 minutes. Never have to mess with drives, downloads, or opening up the game.