Just got my LE. I have a node board 8 over current error. Reseated everything and it removed the trough error but over current is still there. I have no white GI lights in the lower playfield. Can anyone assist?

I have red GI but not white on the lower playfield. We unplugged the connector and there is no over current error.

Gave this a try, nothing flickers.

There is slight scoring exploit on 0.81 code for you premium/LE owners…

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One consistent feature to every Elwin game is the punishment for only making a loop halfway. Straight outlane with JP possibly being the most forgiving. This is one of my favorite design features. Each game has great scoring balance with risk/reward objectives as well.

Yes, I wanted to see it get up to 500 million a loop. I blame the 72nd miss on not having pinmonk’s fans haha

My 71 loops ended at 12 billion for super train with 500+ million per shot at the end

Agreed. Right ramp is the super for bridge mb. Probably stuck. Super train is where the points are at the moment.

It was the right ramp, it is just called a loop in super trains.

No more than looping supers on GB. sk8ball just needs to put a fixed timer on it. I was able to resurrect mine by hitting the ramp again after about a second after the mode turned off. Keep in mind the ball was on the ramp the entire time during my loop streak which was probably 4 minutes worth of ramps.

There’s a “dirty pool” callout for Shatzing the inlane to collect a saucer. Kind of an AFM homage via TAF.

The first tier 2 battle is potentially worth the most. Try that one next time

For those of us who purchased your original towers but haven’t installed them, can we return them for the stronger towers? I wouldn’t mind paying a small fee for the exchange.

Ah yes, the “all the scoring is in bridge multiball” guy. Your intent was good though. You still had to get through the first two stages to collect those opto supers though. Credit for that!

It’s on game exchange

You can easily get 13k for a used LE right now. If anything over 10.5 is fleeced, then call me a sheep. Baaaaaaaaaaa!

I’ll start with tank mb. That roving tank shot starts out at 2% of the value of your tank mb. Let’s say you scored 100 million in the mb. Every tank shot is now worth two million for the rest of the ball. Every time you collect the destruction jackpot, you increase this percentage by 1 percent for the rest of the game. So, if you collected 2 DJ’s on that same ball you got 100 million in tank mb, you would get 4 million a tank. There are two others inserts that work like this, bridge and Tesla. Tesla is the same base 2% except it’s only your Tesla strike total. Bridge is the exactly like tank where the value is set by the multiball, except it’s base starts at 4%. So 100 mil bridge mb with two destruction jackpots would be six million every time you hit the captive ball when lit (triggered by number of switches). The value of any (or all) of three will reset when you drain (think default is 20 million)

Here’s where is gets real fun. Let’s say you started tank and bridge on the same ball. You have collected 2 destruction jackpots so your roving tank is worth 4% of the mb value and bridge is worth 6%. You got 100 million in each. When you hit the pulsing tank shot, you get 8 million a tank because you started bridge mb on the same ball. Your bridge collect is worth 12 million because you started tank mb on the same ball. If you manage to complete Tesla strike on the same ball, everything is worth 3X! Each tank becomes 12 million, each bridge 18 million. In addition to destruction jackpots, controlling Tokyo will increase the base percentage as well.

The value of a collect is given to you upfront as well as put in a bank for you to collect as the carnage value when you change cities. Similar to
CIU in MET. Each collect shot on the same ball you collect the carnage value on, adds a multiplier to its total value. Collecting all inserts (including the raid insert for beating the monster) adds another multiplier for a max of 5x.

You can get massive collects the more destruction jackpots you collect in the game. Every collect increases the base percentage of those 3 by 1% the entire game. Collect 8 and now each tank is 10% of your mb score, each spot target 10% of your Tesla strike total, and each bridge collect 12% of your mb. The scores can get ridiculous late in the game. I had one tank collect at 160 million. This is the genius of the rule set. It is so tempting to keep collecting those annihilation bonuses if you had a great tank or bridge mb… especially on the same ball. Let me know if you need any further detail.

You can certainly get a billion point DJ shot late in the game. You need to pass on the light three ally’s and take the destruction jackpot 2X. Then it’s just a matter of getting rodan and making the shot.

Got to go bigger on the carnage bonus . Late game annihilation bonuses can be huge. I had bridge at a 12% per collect which was really 36% with the other two running. 85 million per collect which is easy to light in mb.

I was thinking about doing this. Color match looks great. How much were you in for with shipping?

That is the trick. Stage a ball on the lower left flipper and wait for the spinner buildup round to end. As soon as it goes out, shoot the mecha spinner to collect the super. He could kill that off in code by deactivating the tail whip lane if the mecha spinner was hit first. Maybe something just for competition install.

I get the super 8/10 with this strategy.

I am by no means mechanical, but it seems your left ramp switch is stuck. Super trains starts after collecting 5 trains. You wouldn’t trigger it till hitting the scoop five times or the manila shot. In super trains, left ramp is the jackpot collect and the shaker goes off.

Check the post I made right after your original post. It’s either your left ramp or right ramp switch. I’m almost positive it’s your left because the shaker doesn’t go off in super trains from the right ramp. Another easy way… when you start a game, is the yellow light near the left ramp on or off? I’m guessing it is off because you are getting phantom registers.

Yea, I remember a few people with the right ramp issues. That was before the train jackpot collect code update. The right ramp shouldn’t trigger the shaker though. That’s why I think it is the left ramp.

I’ll text him. Looking forward to my set as well.

Either that game on the left gets no play or you’re a skinny guy . That LOTR plating looks incredible. Never cared for the game which should qualify my compliment further.

If you think GZ bad, then you should avoid AIQ.

You should almost always hit the outlane save target after you go through the spinner. It’s worth the risk of draining out the right side after contact.

This is my second favorite pin (slight behind JP). I own an LE and despite having seven other games, this is the only one I have played over the last six months. My personality is the type that I dive deep into a topic and nothing else will grab my attention until I master it.

What am I getting at? I have seen so many posts about people enjoying this game but not really understanding the rules or strategy to put up good scores. Here’s the point of my post.

I will be visiting the twitch chromecandy stream next week. If there is enough interest, then I will stream a tutorial on GZ for beginners, intermediate, and advanced players. I know a version of this has been done by other streamers, but it is usually based on the viewer having a decent understanding of the scoring. I’ve always enjoyed explaining complicated concepts in understandable terms. This game (like most things in life) is way more fun if you have the right information to make strategic choices.

If there is interest in this, then I would be happy to do it. If not, then I will have some fun with the 20 other games he has.

I don’t know if he has JP anymore. He was borrowing it from James. If he does then we’ll do it.

Yes, I’ll have him set it up like that. Will probably do it live next Friday morning. I will create a new post with particulars. Thank you all for the feedback. Looking forward to it.

Watch next Friday. I’ll even show a nice little strat to get into a second round of supers.

The tutorial post has been created. Feel free to post any specific questions you would like answered during the stream.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more#post-6986278

18 hours until tomorrow’s GZ tutorial on the chromecandy twitch! A few of you may have caught our stream a couple of hours ago. Check out his VOD for massive GZ mb, almost 500 mil King Ghidorah, and a decent explanation of the annihilation bonus. The goal of the stream is to make a billion points reachable for most skill levels. I may start a bit earlier than 10:00 AM eastern, but I’ll recap any strategies and explanations throughout the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/ChromeCandyPinball

We have updated the code on GZ for tomorrow’s stream. I like the flipper cancel on video and oxygen destroyer sounds cool. Wish he would put a status screen for annihilation percentages… but we’ll just be doing some quick math instead haha.

We are now live with the Godzilla tutorial. Don’t be shy, ask questions.

http://www.twitch.tv/ChromeCandyPinball

Tutorial is up to watch on-demand. Starts with a nice terror build-up and cash out. Highlights include a 700+ million carnage collect and a 270 million bridge mb. The latter gave me the opportunity to show why you focus on jackpots in GZ mb or the second tier 2 battle. I’ll do another one tomorrow morning around 9 eastern if there is enough interest.

http://www.twitch.tv/ChromeCandyPinball

Love to hear that response. Congrats on the double score!

I’ll ask him to do so. We may be doing another tutorial tomorrow morning around 9 am.

You’ll need to hit all three of those standups to spin it around for the add a ball and ebriah spinner.

The answer to your question is titanosaurus for two reasons. First, you know where all five shots are to finish the mode. Three of those shots you will hit just by flailing (1st and 2nd standup, magna post). Use your heat ray to take out the third standup near the loop. Now your ally is lit. Get it on Rodan and hit the scoop. Skill drain (if you still have ball save) to get a ball trapped on the right to hit the maser cannon. You might hit the maser randomly off the sling. Now shoot the magna post. If you took the 5x level 2 power up (which you should always), you’re coming out at 300 million. Second reason is those standups on the right add value (1 million per hit) to the titanosaurus shots. You’re trying to hit all three of those standups anyway for the add a ball in GZ or to progress in mecha mb.

Megalon is the second best choice because the shots are random if you are trying to get all seven at max value. To really make megalon worth it, you need to get to 4x which requires you to hit the lit shot four times without him hiding. It seems like he appears on the left spinner at least a couple of times during the wave of seven. This is the hardest shot in the game and good luck hitting from a flail on the right flipper. Same issues with the left ramp. It is so far up the playfield that you really need a controlled shot to get there. You also need 4 shots to get to your ally instead of three. The one bonus of playing megalon is the switches are building up the value of the shot. It does have the highest cash out value of the two, but you have to play it perfect. Even for someone like Elwin, he would average a higher value on titanosaurus in mb then megalon.

I don’t have the list in front of me so one of those may be off. It’s situational but I would say…

Jet fighters or mecha level 1 (there are others.. never take the bonus haha)

Level 2 5x
Level 3 - DJ extra 3 seconds. These are too important to miss. Getting an extra shot or two at it is huge.
Level 4 - Terror if you have the choice - way more value on average than monster zero. Latest code update did better to adjust this but I think it needs further boost to the jackpot wave.
Level 5 - Rage combo. Again, very valuable to get those extra seconds. Three shots for first ally, four for second and all five for third. Get all five for a big point payoff.
Level 6 - Spinner (neither award is great)
Level 7 - This one is interesting. Most would take plus 15 seconds on Rodan. 2X magna grab can be worth a lot late in the game. When you hit the lit magna grab, you get points at the bottom of the screen. I have seen this get up to 60 million on a late stage game of mine.
Level 8 - Monster Zero
Level 9 - Light all ally’s. This is the easiest choice especially if you have a DJ lit at the building. You will get double value once you put it back into the scoop for Rodan. I would only do 2X if I needed that DJ to beat someone or I already had a couple of ally’s lit.
Level 10 - imposter is the one to take because first is ally. I believe second increases annihilation percent by 1.

I’ll probably just post to the tutorial post and people can asking questions specific to strategy there. Such a great game!

It’s even better than that for the magna grab. I believe the points are tied to activating the switch, not the post grabbing the ball. The post grabs my ball 50% of the time at best. You need to hit it directly to increase that percentage, but I usually get a poor swing to get a shot at the imposter. You also see the magna insert lit during tank where the post is not grabbing the ball after hitting the post. I think you are scoring that value there as well. If you are at level 7, the that value will be very decent at that time.

How often did you need just 15 more seconds for a massive Rodan cash out? If your answer is often then take it. If it isn’t or you tend to lose the ball before the timer expires, take the 2X magna. The goal of my tutorial was just to get people to a billion points. The strategy is different for people looking to get 3, 5, 7, or 10 billion. My goal is to get 10 billion with no eb and a tight tilt. I have got close but not quite there yet.

You need to play the tier 2 modes in the other cities. If you don’t like them, then just get out really quick.

No, you need to play the tier 2 first. If you want to get out of each to reach Planet X, then here is what you do:

King G - This is my favorite to play. You only need to finish one of the five lit shots before the scoop lights to collect the value. Easiest would be the building. First shot is green, second yellow, and red third. Shoot the scoop to end it.

Tier 2 mb mode - Forget the characters but it is the second choice. It’s a mb so just keep draining until you have one ball left on a trapped flipper.

Third Tier 2 - This is a switch hit and collect mode. If you have chromecandy juiced spinners, should only take one rip of the heat ray or mecha spinner. If you have mine or most routed games, you’re looking at two to three rips. Shoot the red building shot to flee and end the mode.

This is the safest way to Planet X, but don’t miss out on these modes if you aren’t playing for Planet X. Check out last Friday’s chromecandy stream for an almost perfect king G with Rodan stack for almost half a billion!

Yes, you’ll be able to change cites, light the scoop with the ramps, and take on another tier 1 monster. It confuses people because Tokyo only has the one tier 1 monster. Every other city has two tiers to play before advancing. Plenty of times where I had a massive carnage collect but I had to play the tier 2 first. Lost over a billion a few times by getting greedy during the tier 2 stage.

If it makes you feel better, I lost a 13 billion game similarly. Just do it again!

Think of it this way, it’s the only mb that I know of in pinball that takes a level of skill to play it while a ball save in running.

Shake the machine a little during the drop or figure out what flipper they are close to and get a good single slap save in there. I usually can keep at least one ball going.

Congrats! Check out this pinside topic for how to keep scoring more. I’ll be posting some quick strats soon.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more

I was going to write a section on this in my post. This advice is basically correct. Flailing around is only going to get you the center mecha jackpot and one or two mecha targets at best. The hardest one to get is left ramp. Get a ball trapped on the right when it starts. Let the other balls drain. Shoot the left ramp first and get the side mecha target like described above. Right ramp should be next followed by the target closet to the scoop. Then hit the center jackpot and the middle target. Once you reach this stage, you get a ball save to build up the jackpot. DON’T DO THIS if you are struggling to collect the super. Just get a ball trapped on the left flipper. Wait for the buildup stage to end. Shoot the mecha spinner for the single super and qualify terror.

I would not use the heat ray on the super unless I was running out of time or the ball was draining. I would use it on the left ramp. He should make it deterministic (take out the hardest shot to hit first) but I believe it is random. The only way to purposely use it on the left ramp is to have that be the only shot lit. That means taking out the other two first.

This is the awesome (or annoying) part of this game. Elwin is the last thing from a flailer. He wants you to hit purposeful accurate shots. Both the left ramp and right ramp are as far up the playfield as possible with steep angles (right) or tight entries (left ramp). You’ll get much higher scores the more controlled you play.

It’s the “chase ball” option in the settings. If it loses a ball, then it will serve another ball.

I second this, although it doesn’t happen as often.

I like the confidence of this statement. Leaderboards have no way to record tilt settings. Seems like some people are playing without a tilt altogether…. Or a very loose one. I usually take my score and multiply it by 2 since I put a pinburgh tilt on my machine. Maybe that should be a category!

I’ve lost count on how many 1+ billion carnage bonuses I have lost by getting greedy for more. He needs a high score of shame for this. What’s that Tennyson quote… “Tis better to have a one billion carnage collect and lose, then to have never collected one at all!”

That’s called going on tilt haha. This is what makes this game so good. You’re always trying to do “the thing”, and every collect makes you wonder if you could have done more.

Check out this tutorial I did while visiting chrome candy. Start at the 32:00 mark. There’s a very good description and example of the annihilation and carnage bonus scoring. That is how you get the big scores in the game. I also started a post where I’m giving out all my strategies for the game… AND IT’S ALL FREE!

Pinside post: How to score a billion on GZ… and more!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more#post-6986278

One of three tutorial videos:

I would highly suggest you follow up on your last statement. The game is fun no matter what you are scoring… it is just more fun when get to that billion and beyond!

THIS is the number 1 problem with GZ. On mine it will hold it fine, but at the last second will shift slightly to the right and make the loop nearly impossible to hit. I’m no engineer (toxicologist), but I feel that this could be fixed by changing either the strength or the pulse of the magnet. +1000 points for anyone who solves this problem. I have had multiple 10 billion + potential games ruined by not getting a consistent drop from the magnet where it isn’t at the tip of the flipper. First-world pinball player problems I know… but still!

This all seems like sound advice. Unfortunately, I’m a way better player than I am a fixer of anything… but I think I could attempt your first suggestion. Thank you.

As promised, I have posted my jets strategy in the pinside post dedicated to helping everyone score a billion on GZ!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more/page/2#post-7018381

Shooting the loop.

Chromecandy mods are a must for the premium/LE. They have my full endorsement!

Contact twenty84 for his stainless steel version. Looks great on the machine and won’t break either. Or keep breaking the plastic stern one…

The two best pinball machines made IMO.

You qualify it by getting the super in GZ mb. You still need to get to the level 4 power up and collect. it at the scoop. Did you select “light monster zero” for your level 4 power up? If not, then that is why you didn’t see anything on the playfield.

+100 to this take.

Played a quick game on new code. I like the adjustments especially monster status before you change cities.

Start this video at 32:00. I go through how to play and score in GZ

Nick, I had the same issue with most copies of GZ. Ben’s (chromecandy) worked better and James’s was great. Fixing/adjusting pinball machines isn’t my thing… I just play them. I believe some of the issue is tied to the ball guide for the left ramp. It needs to be tight to the magna post. If your guide is sticking out a bit, then try to adjust it. There are posts within this thread that give a step-by-step.

twenty84 makes a great mod for premium bridge, building, and mecha. Highly recommended. It’s posted in the pinside market.

Watch stone on the batcave video. Does exactly that… hits something at the top of the loop and slows down almost every time.

Fun question

1. < 1 billion
2. 1 - 5 billion
3. >10 billion

Trying to see how long I can keep my 1 bil average on pro and LE tables. Bound to come to an end at some point.
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The bridge collapses when you satisfy the mb criteria, collect a train award, or collect the bridge super. It is not random (although that might be fun haha). First bridge award is +2 Godzilla power up followed by super train at 5, DJX at 10, then alternates between big points and +2 power ups every 5 after.

Check this video out starting at 32:00. All about annihilation and carnage bonus. I go into detail on both.

Part 1 of the “How to get to Planet X” strategy has been released. Now that you have your billion point score, let’s take you to Planet X! Link is below.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more/page/4#post-7142483

I disagree! You can start Tesla before starting rampage and it will carryover. As for surviving, I agree it can be challenging. If the goal is to survive, then right ramp ski jump is the technique to use. If the ski jump is hard, then right ramp to left ramp. If you miss, then be slightly early and clip the magna post on the left. Ignore the left spinner shot on rampage if you want to survive.

Thank you. Will be back out there in November to record a few more. Hopefully with 1.0 code!

Part 2 of my how to get to Planet X strategy has been released. Planet X even more critical with the latest 1.0 update and KOTM! Check it out here.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more/page/4#post-7155600

Need to finish Planet X victory mode. Extremely difficult to do. You only get one shot at it anyway, so I like that he ends the game after KOTM.

I second this. His full metal package is a nice touch.

Keith built in the secret combos achievement because finishing Planet X victory mode (part of qualifying the ultimate wizard mode) is extremely difficult. That wizard achievement is still out there to get on stream.

I own all four. Maiden is the most accessible to the pinball population. You don’t have to be a great player to feel like you accomplished something. Godzilla is right behind it, but the left ramp is a tight shot to be tied to a mode start. JP is really fun, but tough to make shots except for the top tier players. AIQ is the easiest shooter but the code is too deep for most to enjoy. My preference order

JP
GZ
IMDN
AIQ

I only put AIQ fourth because my marvel ramp has never worked properly (even with the “fix”) which annoys me as a player (I’m not a fixer). I love the code with AIQ, but I also enjoy deep code and especially setting up “the thing” on any game. My collector friends who don’t play tournaments (or do casually) will put IMDN or GZ as #1.

Welcome to the club! Check out this page for some tips and explanations.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-to-score-a-billion-on-godzilla-and-more#post-6986278

Brand new tutorials for GZ will be stream live this week on the chromecandy twitch account. Whether you are new to the game, or a top tournament player, there will be tips for everyone to improve their score. Will post official dates when known.

https://m.twitch.tv/chromecandypinball

We are setting the GZ tutorial stream date for this Saturday. I will highlight important changes from older code get a full run down of the game including my tournament strategies. Stream will go live at 9:30 AM eastern. Here’s a link to the original tutorial and the Chromecandy’s twitch stream.

Original Tutorial (0.97 code)

Channel for live tutorial
https://m.twitch.tv/chromecandypinball

For the multiplier, it is based on how many of the four inserts you have played on that ball. 1X for each and a bonus 1X if you do all four. The points value is based upon how well you collected each carnage bonus for tank, Tesla, and bridge. Your total DJ value determines city bonus.