What a load of horse shit. Why would any distro cancel when they know the topper is sold out and could sell them easily?

There will hopefully be a new topper in the works, I can’t say by who as I’ve been asked not to mention names but from the initial description it sounds great!

Calm down buddy you got your topper and your happy no need to jump on others, whether that info is true or not it effects no one so breathe…. 1 2 3, breathe.

I am perfectly calm. I am happy to start sharing my opinion on all your mods from now on too. This is after all a place where people shate their opinion?

By all means if you feel the need so say anything good or bad fill your boots pal, your responses regarding the topper here would suggest your not calm or at least taking the topper stuff a little to heart, just saying.

It’s all subjective you like the Godzilla topper others don’t, hasn’t stopped Stern selling out, the bitching never does stop Stern selling out which is why complaining about the complainers is a waste of energy, there’s a reason Stern never respond to the negative stuff because it has zero effect on them and the louder the complaints/the more chat it’s free advertisement for them.

Negativity can directly affect sales especially in Pinball. One pinsider and a few of his mates can do plenty of damage to anyones product. If you knew me you would know that I would never do that. It is not free advertisenent. Stern never respond to extreme negativity as it is a conversation that will never go their way and they know it. Better for them to say nothing.

I don't hate the topper but don't love it either but I am more in the camp of liking it so I am one of the people who bought it. I think it is too much money but I never expected it would be a great value but then again I don't let the price of it bother me too much. I am actually happy it is more in the line of a JP topper and not a Mano or Rush. I have a bunch of games and they all have toppers and my GZ was going to get one too. The topper looks fine to me, I might change the GZ on the topper or I might not. There are a lot of cheap GZ options out there if I decide to change it. I don't have any intention of selling the game and don't really care if the topper doubles in price or loses half it's value if I need to sell it (which I won't).

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I don’t love the topper, but I’ll be buying one anyway to complete the LE that I have bolted to my floor. I guess I just expected more from Stern from arguably their best game ever. What is disappointing, is that this one appears that they didn’t really try. Now, with that being said, I remember not too long ago everybody was upset about the James Bond topper and how plain it was. But when they started shipping, everyone said they were really nice and integrated with the game nicely. So, am I disappointed? Does it feel like Stern mailed this one in? Absolutely. Might it turn out better than we think, I hope so. I’m not going to kill this one until I see it in person. But I’m also not going to toe the company line like 1 other person on this thread.

I am not able to connect my GZ to my wifi. No password even on it. The machine sees the networks but wont connect. I have reset the usb wifi already and still not working

Any tips?

Just a heads up. I have made a lot of 20 UFO pop bumper mods that are ready to ship. They have been out of stock for a while now. This will likely be the last run of these until at the very least later in the year.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1362-gov-s-mods/05578-godzilla-ufo-pop-bumper-mod

Thanks

My son just went to Japan with some friends on vacation, visited the Godzilla museum and brought this back for me. Godzilla vs Samurai, LOL. He said the museum was really cool. Lots of movie props, figures, and even a zipline into Godzilla's mouth. He knew I was looking for something to keep the dust off the glass and this is just perfect.

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This is fantastic. This little sucker was ruining my day! Thanks for the input all. That little leaf spring was the issue.

Yeah, I don’t quite buy it either.

I mean I buy that the customers orders were cancelled. But I assume you are right that they probably just went to the next customers they had on the list.

That’s what all the distributors I’ve used would do.

Complaints about the topper so far by most folks are purely subjective.

So it’s not like it’s known to be faulty or something.

Insider Connected supports 2.4GHz WPA/WPA2 only. WEP and open connection (no password) are not supported.

I am fairly sure the distro would know who would buy the topper and who would be just tire kicking.

If you cannot afford the topper or do not think the topper is good value for money, just say so and be done with it. The moaning and constant complaining spoils the pinball experience. Especially the horse shit made up along the way by haters.

The GZ topper is just like JP, GOTG, AIQ and many others.

Any video out there yet what the Stern topper does? The official video did not really show all that much, I have got the trailer on my tv right now as I type this and they dont show the heat ray breath lighting up, would be grateful for some footage from an owner when they get theirs in hand, thank you in advance.

Besides the flame effects, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't do a damn thing but light up.

A number of us have had this same issue. Good news is, it's an easy one-time tweak and you're good to go. Glad you got it sorted!

My opinion on toppers (and I'm a sales director for my company) is that the toppers are a way of selling games.
Those games that aren't high sellers or Stern has lots of stock get a lot more effort put into the topper in the hopes that a really cool interactive topper influences customers into purchasing a game they may not have purchased beforehand
On the flip side, top selling games don't need a topper to sell well, the topper is there to purely grab extra profit

thanks! Got it working!

You forgot to mention whether you’re buying one.

"Eh I don't really love Mando. I don't think I'd spend 7000 on it. Just not a fun game. "
"Oh shit, what a cool topper... See ya later $9000!"
-very few people

So you agree it sold more games?

Can't imagine that it hurt sales!

I don’t want to live in a world where toppers sell games. Aaah!

I find it hard to believe toppers sell games. They may help drive people to a machine and play it on location and they may help part a completionist of their money but selling more machines?

where do you have autolaunch shoot to? behind mechzilla? to the magna lock?

Mine is usually close to tapping or hitting magna grab

im there but get sdtm a bit

Does anyone know what the topper mode does? Haven't seen a new code update. I'm assuming that even if you have the topper you can't yet play the mode.

IMHO they are designed to drive people to a machine to play it on location by making the game look more attractive (and thus justify the high price)-- but in actuality its us collector suckers that end up buying them.

I thought I heard it was a KOTM speed attack mode ala Escape From Nublar. But now not really sure where I heard or read that.

Same thing goes on pinball machines sold out sight unseen. But for the sake of an argument, one could argue why pinheads spend the extra money on a LE model when they could buy a premium model with the same playfield and features for about $2500 bucks less. The money you spend on the LE accessories you can probably get cheaper and still have the left over money to buy a topper, plus some money left over.

I LOVE my GZ Pro, so I bought the Stern topper because this pin is a keeper in my collection. We all know once the toppers sell out you can forget about getting one later without paying a heftier price tag. Yes it’s expensive and probably over-priced, but tell me what other “mod” to a pinball isn’t overpriced?

Think about this for a second. Let’s say I take all of the mods and additions made from our wonderful modders and companies (Tdiddy, Mezel, Goudevia, Modfather, Modcouple, etc, etc, etc) and take them to an average flea market that didn’t cater to the pinball community. I lay them out on a table and put them with other items, except I keep the price I paid for the mod on the item, so how many of those mods do you think I would sell? Do you think I would have a non-pinhead offer me $250 bucks for an Atomic Godzilla or $500 bucks for an Iron Maiden Gus? Probably none. However, if I take those same mods to a pinball expo I would have sold them before they could leave an impression on the table and maybe would have gotten more money for them.

At the end of the day these toppers and mods still puts a smile on my face and I get a blast out of just sometimes looking at the pin more than playing it. I purchased around 18 different mods from different individuals and vendors for my GZ pro and it looks ssssooooo much better than the “plain Jane” stock version I originally received. I guess sometimes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that still doesn’t make that person an idiot for what he likes.

Agreed, my GZ is not going anywhere..."bolted to the floor" I believe is the phrase, I've already spent over 2000 in mods, you only live once...enjoy life

Nice haul. I have been put on wife's "no more pinball spending" list until at least the end of the year. Went a bit crazy with new Godzilla Premium and mods
earlier this year as well as doing a complete LED conversion including OCD board and color DMD screen (currently ongoing) on my STTNG. This was after getting my new Mando Premium and topper last year.

I’m on that list too

Ditto here. GZPre, AlienLV, TBL in the span of a few months. I'm officially toast.

Alien looks really fun to play.

You gotta unbolt it to get that sweet nudge action

Probably not the most objective forum to ask, but I have an Elwin JP premium and I’m thinking of adding a Godzilla premium as a second machine. I’ve played Godzilla and have loved it. I’m curious if these two machines make a good pair. JP is more of a shooters machine so for casuals that play it there can be some challenge. It feels like GZ is more accessible for the most part with longer ball times.

What do you all think?

Yep, very different games just as you described but both are great games and I think they go well together.

I had a JP premium but never really clicked with it. Godzilla has a much better geometry and flow. Love Godzilla.

My kids and I have played JP at an arcade and we own GZ. I think they like GZ more because (I think) it flows better.

I've said here before though, I opted for TNA instead of FF because I felt they were too similar. I feel the same for JP and GZ. But I'm just one guy. Good luck. Enjoy whatever you choose. We are lucky to own them.

I have been currently borrowing a JP for 6 months now and can say they are totally different but work well with each other. JP is def a harder game to dial in the shots. Godzilla is just way too much fun when you get flowing on it. Love both games but would put Godzilla over JP. Godzilla can be some long games cause its very forgiving if you miss shots. JP will punish you for missing shots.

Sounds like people are generally aligned! I guess it’s time to convince the wife we need a second machine

Don’t buy the second if you don’t want a 3rd. That was my mistake. Good luck

My wife had set a 4 machine limit. I traded my beautiful fully restored Creature for my Mando Premium. When GZ came out, I was able to persuade her to allow a 5th (with some help from my kids), and am currently at that limit and will probably be there for quite a while.