Wrong test. Not switch test. Go to the ball trough test. It's got a picture of a ball and "CLR" on the diag menu icon.

Also, when you do the trough test be SURE to pull the white peg on the inside left of the coin door frame so your coils have power with the coin door open or it won't work.

I’m on the waitlist for a HW Deluxe by AP due to come in at end of year. $7300 delivered. I only have room for 1 more machine (I own JP Pro). Im trying to decide if I want to change and splurge for a GZ Prem. My question, is the wait for this going to be well into 2023? And is it still going for msrp around 9k? Should I get a GZ pro instead of HW if I can’t land a Premium? My kids are 8 and 6 and love pinball so thought HW would go good next to JP.
Thanks for any advice

Ya I’d imagine at this price some people back out

I finally joined the club! With this and Rush, I’ve now tripled my pinball collection and sadly maxed out space for more. I’ve put a whopping 2 games on my machine so far and I’m loving it! The shots are tough but fair and the whole game is immersive and just plain fun. I’m usually not a fan of shaker motors but it’s perfectly integrated in this game and I’m glad I got it. Can’t wait to play it more!

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So this is the trough test with NO balls in it. If I put a ball in the shooter lane (22) it auto plunges it to the playfield. The white peg was pulled out.

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During the switch test all switches tested showed up on the display. When I put a ball in the trough the last switch remains on screen as if no ball went in the trough.

Well, that's a problem. It thinks all the balls are in the trough. So bad trough board, most likely.

If you leave the balls out and (carefully - the coils have power, don't touch any coil lugs by mistake) wiggle the board connectors, does it change any of the indicators on that screen?

I don't remember - did this happen AFTER you'd been playing a while, or did it come out of the box like this?

EDIT: looking at your picture of the trough board, is the 3 pin connector on all the pins? It's hard to tell from the angle, but it looks like it's shifted off by 1 pin.

From what I can see you can fit one more. Move Ghostbusters against the wall on the right. Close the gap between the back boxes and you can fit one more on the left! LOL

Na. The pins are in. I rechecked. It's just a bad angle. So where would you go from here? Thanks for your effort so far. (And everyone. This is a great forum.)

The board on the OTHER side of the trough just has one 3 pin connector with two leads. If it's not plugged in correctly (make sure the pins line up) OR the pins have lost connection because they've bent a little, the trough will read like yours.

So try re-plugging that connector, making sure the pins line up correctly and it's not shifted.

I just looked at mine to compare and the three pin connector is connected on the other side, and the 5 pin plug on the closest side to the door opening. Thus having two plugs, one on each board.

Is the extra $ worth it for a premium version of Godzilla? Seems like you get A LOT of upgrades for that money.

No offense to the pro, but the bridge, building and mecha is well with the extra 2 k.

No brainer. It's why the Prem's are a lot harder to find than the Pros, IMO.

The trough board facing the coin slot has 2 and the board facing the Blackbox has one. I put it up to service, removed all molex and reseated all. Same problem.

On the coinbox side, remove the three pin leaving the 5 pin, and leave the three pin on the back box board and see what happens then.

Correct, that's why I asked to pull the front side three pin leaving the rear. Curious if there were two power connections by accident. Worse case the boards just don't power up.

Well, to be clear. I got the game in April. It was fine out of the box. I cleaned and waxed last week. It was fine for a couple of days. Now this. I am wondering if it took a couple of days for a ball to collect wax I may have missed. Then maybe it smeared on an opto or something in the trough? I cleaned it as best I could but, tbh I don't know what an opto looks like. I didn't touch anything under the playfield when I cleaned the machine.

Just installed Diddy’s NAEGELE bld.
Wow! Easy install sight forward!
Bld. Is scaled perfectly. Doing lots of test play now! I am enjoying the exit flap on bld cool feature.

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Looks great. Can you tell us if the "diddys mod" bits and goat billboard can be removed easily?

I wouldn’t want to remove it it looks so cool!
Pictures don’t do this mod justice !!!

Is this a pro machine?

I'm not sure what the rest of your house looks like, but I could probably squeeze a couple more pinballs in the space shown.

yes

Got to play a bunch last night! The "secret combo" shots are a really cool addition to a game. Love it! I have to try out the 1954 soundtrack later on. I miss my Iron Maiden but man I'm loving this game.

Be cool if someone could make a mod to play GZ video footage on the billboard.

I have the Pro and have played a decent amount on the Premium (thanks to recent SFGE in ATL).

This has been covered to death, but again, here are some of my thoughts (totally subjective).
There are 3 main differences, the bridge, the building, and mechagodzilla.
Besides cosmetic and cooleness factor, there's not any real difference in gameplay other than the mechagodzilla area.

I don't care about the bridge, and the building has the same net effect (although we all enjoy physical ball locks). Now that the Pro code stages the building multiball at the maget before dropping them, there's even less difference here.

I do have to say that I LOVE the Mechagodzilla belly magnet catch on starting that mode in the Premium. Super fun.
I dislike having the targets rotate because they now increase my chance of a SDTM ricochet.

All in all, the "feel" the Premium is a little more complete, and I really enjoyed it. I got such a great deal on my Pro, that it would cost me ALOT to upgrade to the Premium at MSRP or beyond, so it's really not worth it. Maybe at some point down the line if I get a good deal on a Premium I might would upgrade. But it's not something I'm gonna seek out, and I don't think it should affect buying decisions.

As some have said, buy what's available. There is pretty much ZERO difference in gameplay (which can't be said for a lot of Pro vs Prem arguments), it's more aesthetics and feel.

If you buy the Premium, you're gonna be happy. If you buy the Pro, you're gonna be happy.

Thank you. It seems all I have left is to contact stern. Pretty disappointing. Hope they help.

Have you confirmed your shooter lane switch isn't stuck closed? That would cause this behavior...

someone posted on the mod thread a tiny tv that plays old godzilla clips for like 140 i bet would fit right there perfectly

Agreed! We played a handful of games after Freddy installed the Diddy mod and it looks fantastic! It's a perfect complement to the bridge and main building and definitely adds a layer of texture to the game. The lighting on the Naegele sign gives it a nice pop. I know I'll be getting one!

Yes. I did a switch test in the service menu as well as manual.

So glad I found this, I thought something was wrong with my game and was like F!!!! phew! back to breathing easy.

Update on the trough issue.

Stern responded to me with:

The first thing I would suggest is to disconnect the trough optos, and let's see if the game is still registering the switches with the two boards disconnected.

Anyone know how to do this?

Quick question, anyone end up with two balls in their shooter lane? Seems to be happening on the regular on my machine, but not sure how to fix this one. All settings are default currently. 1 out of 3 games will end up this way. Thoughts?

It happened to me when I first got the game. I lowered the power of the trough. It worked.

Unplug the connectors to the two circuit boards, one on each side of the trough.

I'll give this a shot, curious, what did you set yours to?

I also noticed one of the connecters wasn't fully seated, might have been as simple as this. (still curious on your trough power)

Thanks for the response!

Would this mod work on a Premium? Keen to hear what Premium mods do work best

I put it on 185. Let me know how it turns out.

The guy called from Stern. Awesome help. He had me remove the molex from both boards. (I have three.)

Then we did the CLR test and the balls showed empty in the trough. This ruled out the node board. So they are sending me new trough opto boards.

Thanks everyone for the help. I appreciate your time.

Let's hope you get yours faster than mine I'm at 3 weeks and waiting

What are you waiting for?

Yes all three versions pro ,prem, le, will be avalible.

Any word on a Godzilla topper?