I use externals in almost all of my games and it sounds great here.

How did you hookup the sub? Is Pinnovator needed?

No just alligator clips. It’s how I hook up almost all of my games.

Same here. My Stern Star Trek Premium and Walking Dead Pro are best with the subs and not the same without them, the bigger the better. Godzilla will get the largest one that I have!

Haha, no kidding. EVERY pin I bring in to mod I tell myself I won't replace the power supply fan because the pin's going away when I'm done, but literally day one every time I change the fan out because I cannot stand that high whine with the terrible fan they use. Gomez says a better/quieter power supply is coming, but...when?? It's been more than a year now.

Thanks!

delt31 & Green-Machine , Godzilla LE will be my 3rd pin. I have a TMNT Premium and had a Mando Premium(Sold recently to fund Godzilla). I've never heard a pin with an external sub. Any recommendations on a solution to get an external sub for my two modern sterns?

I believe the most common is this Polk: https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-PSW10-Powered-Subwoofer/dp/B0002KVQBA/ref=sr_1_2

Occasionally for sale under $100, and can hook up more than one pin if desired (though some games may differ in perfect settings).

Monoprice 8" or 12" External Subwoofers are nice options as well.

This is a good one and easy to hook up two games to one sub.

I'm patiently awaiting my LE. Meanwhile I'm trying to sneak in games on the local Pros.

I went to CAX last weekend and brought my rig:

Full VOD still available here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1178488997

I setup the rig during the MFP league night at Lynn's Arcade:

Full VOD available here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1180743918

Signature KME game with never seen before shots!

I have a monoprice, Polk sw10, and an Onkyo for my Sterns all with pinnovators. The onkyo so far is the best.

The most amazing sub I've had connected so far is one of JL Audio's, the E112, which gets truly subterranean. Short of that the best one that I own is their entry-level D108 (currently on #the_walking_dead) that has good pitch and texture but not the pants-shaking bass you can really feel like the E112. I also have a B&W ASW608 on #star_trek_le and the JL Audio beats it handily. Good subs actually have deep bass with texture and pitch accuracy, not just 50 or 60 hertz boom like the crazy car stereos you hear coming down the street. Every sound has to start at 0 hertz, so the more of that you can recreate accurately the better everything is. It's pretty crazy when you hear it right. I'm done preaching now.

I might be imagining this but the left flipper seems to be slightly off and too low compared to the right flipper on that pro.

If you drain during a battle mode do you fail and have to requalify it all over again? If you fail do you then have to re-do it later or can you still progress to wizard mode? I'm not a great player and find modes that either continue when you drain (like jurassic park paddocks) or dont affect qualifying for the wizard mode (like TMNT, where you can fail all modes but still get to final battle) suit me better than games you lose all your progress when you drain even if shots/ layout are easier (like ElviraHOH, easier shots to make but fail the haunt modes when you drain and then have to re qualify for the modes and complete them to get to wizard mode, I dont know if this can be adjusted in Elvira settings as I've only played it on location)
Love the look of Godzilla but want to get a bit more info on the difficulty of the coding of the modes and thats not always apparent when reading.
Thanks!

RoyalJack once you get your sub, use this to hook it up! https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/products/pinsub-spike-spike2-stern-kit keeps the machine stock if you sell it later, and is a great clean way to hook a sub to any newer stern. i have these on all of my modern stern machines.

Whatever sub you get, I’d pick this passive mixer up. I have 4 games on one sub and it sounds great.

https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/collections/all/products/pinsmx-passive-subwoofer-mixer

I’m not a big mod guy, but I ALWAYS add a shaker and a subwoofer to my games. I have a hard time playing pinball without a subwoofer now. It just adds so much to the experience.

Also, do yourself a favor and just get a roll of speaker cable and a cheap soldering iron. If you don’t know how to solder, check out YouTube. You need to know how to solder if you’re going to own pinball machines. Soldering the speaker wire to the cabinet subwoofer is an entry level solder job. You can’t screw it up.

Don’t go spending money on these mods and kits to do something that costs nothing but a glob of solder. You have to buy the wire anyways. So the only additional cost is the solder. Save your money. When you’re done with the machine and want to sell it, snip the speaker wire close to the cabinet subwoofer. Or you can always unsolder the cable if you want no trace left behind.

Doug knows 100% I've swapped my prem elwin machines with his kits and its super easy! Although I had to solder the speaker wires to the kenwood speakers I installed. Looking back I could have installed molex connectors but solder seemed like the easier solution and surefire connection for me. Doug do you currently have the 5.25 brackets? And light packages in stock like I've purchased prior? Need one ASAP.

So has anyone replaced stern pro or premium speakers with the LE/updated ones? Anything that is plug and play Bc I’m thinking about swapping out some of my non LE sterns as the sound on this LE is very good

And I use psw10 sub for all my games.

Loving the destruction jackpot one shot off the magnet.

Are there other games that have this type of all-or-nothing one shot?

Hawkeye challenge on AIQ

Pinnovators on every pin and I think GZ deserves a klipsch 12". Costco usually has best price. I have 4 polks and 2 klipsch, and there is a substantial difference in them.

Palmer Where do you place the single sub? Does it sound like the sub sound is coming from across the room when playing a machine not closest to the sub?

I have several games hooked to one sub with the Pinnovators splitter. It really doesn't matter where the sub is located as the sub adds a "fullness" to the sound and doesn't serve the same function as a normal speaker. You really can't tell where the sound is coming from but you know it does sound a heck of a lot better. BTW I got my last PSW 10 rebox from Accessories4less for $90. They shipped fast and in a factory box

that is an opto sensor/switch and these typically have no covers that I know of. if there is a mod for covering these it would be great.

I duplicated the LE speakers and sub on JP2Pre, using Doug’s lights and speaker grill modifications. It was a big upgrade. Also, Dan’s Pinwoofer system is amazing, although he uses a similar but slightly better sub compared to the LE. The amp really makes a difference.

The current battle ends after draining or if the timer runs out. Battle progress is saved and you don't have to hit the two ramps to relight Kaiju Battle.

Basically in the middle of the row. Each input has a small pot that you can use for a basic mix. Have to play around with it for a bit but once dialed in it is pretty great.

what do you guys think of the rules currently? don't you find the multi ball too easy to start and the modes often being ignored? just 'shoot' the building a lot sort of thing? I am hoping the code changes this a bit... thoughts?
I get it is Godzilla and its job is to destroy things, lol, but I feel like IJ williams can be multi ball heavy too if played this well and can easily rack points up without doing any modes whatsoever...

Can anybody comment on the difference in gameplay between pro and LE.

Specifically I really enjoy the mechagodzilla inner orbit on the pro, wondering how the LE turnstile jump ramp stacks up.

Initially it seemed like the premium was a no-brainer, but the flow of the pro really suprized me.

With that splitter can you have both games on and it works for both (playing one game at a time)?

Rules have a ways to go, it is initially a little multi ball heavy i agree.
-But you can see the skeleton of what's to come... Cities will be like the JP paddocks.

code is still way early at .80

You can play multiple pins at same time. I currently use this on my other pins

Nice - do you have a link to the product? I might split a few then instead buying more!

Post #767 has the link

I agree with your approach of buying the premium and upgrading hardware to color of choice. I also include the metal apron, coin door and shooter housing in the batch. Often the LE trim color selected is not the best way to go and by the time you’ve powder coated and added a topper, you’ve spent the same as an LE at MSRP, but you have the superior game. You need a topper to have a complete game imo, so I plan to buy the official topper, unless it turns out badly. You can’t recreate or buy LE cabinet artwork nor backglass, so those are what you are getting for the $1.5k price difference.

As to what color would look best on Godzilla, I couldn’t guess right now. But when someone gets it done right and posts pics of their custom game, you’ll know it is the right color.

Official topper to have a complete game??? Looks like you are part of the topper inflation problem. Piece of plastic for 1k is a joke. Topper should be included in the LE price like CGC MBrLE.

Go to Pinnovators and plug in your games. Buy an outlet (about $35 each) and a splitter (about $85). It's true you can solder onto your cabinet speaker and do this yourself but Pinnovators does it neatly and reversibly. Also the splitter let's you adjust the subwoofer volume individually.

Poor strategy for scoring points. Yes the MB is easy to qualify, but it's more like a booster than an objective of it's own. The easy MB is a common design choice to make the game more approachable for casual or new players. You can easily make the game dance.. but the more advanced play is beyond that.

sure but this apply to any game really, including IJ. I hope the MB starts is a bit more difficult in future code.

No leaked pics of Godzilla topper yet?

So if it applies to all games - why is it a concern for you here?

I mean.. some games GIVE you multiball on ball three for similar reasons... make sure the casual gets to some excitement.

Focus on getting an ally and a monster and then look at MB.

Wow looks delicious.

Does the Smart Missile shot on Jurassic Park count?

LOL doesn’t it when do the Stern toppers usually come out after a new pin is revealed?