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Stern Flipper Parts Help (solved)

By SJ23

9 months ago


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#1 9 months ago

New to repairing - please dumb it down for me as much as possible

Flight 2000. Noticed this plastic piece (?) is broken. Flipper still works fine. Should I replace just the cracked part? Is this what I need? https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-197
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#2 9 months ago

I would suggest buying a replacement kit to replace all worn parts : https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-195-LR
The game will be more fun to play with new flipper mechanisms.

#3 9 months ago

As usual Marcos prices are much higher than other sources. $75 at Marcos, same rebuild kit $55 at pinball life. https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-flipper-rebuild-kit-left-and-right-flippers.html

#4 9 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

Noticed this plastic piece (?) is broken. Flipper still works fine. Should I replace just the cracked part?

With the flipper link broken there's no way that flipper works fine.

The part in the link is ok, get 2 and do both sides at once.

Quoted from bluespin:

As usual Marcos prices are much higher than other sources.

He doesn't need the whole thing.... $3.95 each to get quantity of 2 and rebuild both sides.

#5 9 months ago
Quoted from slochar:

He doesn't need the whole thing.... $3.95 each to get quantity of 2 and rebuild both sides

I the flipper link broke in half the other parts can't be in good condition either...

#6 9 months ago
Quoted from slochar:With the flipper link broken there's no way that flipper works fine.
The part in the link is ok, get 2 and do both sides at once.

He doesn't need the whole thing.... $3.95 each to get quantity of 2 and rebuild both sides.

Actually it does work fine. I was surprised to see it was broken at all. I opened the machine to compare the flipper assembly to a different machine's & noticed the broken piece. That spring must've caught the plastic perfectly bc I hadn't noticed any difference when playing it. Crazy!

Thanks for the advice, I was hoping to not spend $55+. I think I'll try the $4 route first and see how it goes.

#7 9 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

Actually it does work fine.

Just because the parts seem to move, doesn't mean it's actually working correctly.

Those flipper mechs really need to be rebuilt. It's obvious that the plunger is old and worn out, which may even have caused the problem since the travel distance changes as the parts get worn out.

#8 9 months ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Just because the parts seem to move, doesn't mean it's actually working correctly.
Those flipper mechs really need to be rebuilt. It's obvious that the plunger is old and worn out, which may even have caused the problem since the travel distance changes as the parts get worn out.

By "rebuilt", do you mean I should buy this: https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-flipper-rebuild-kit-left-and-right-flippers.html and replace all these parts?

#9 9 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

By "rebuilt", do you mean I should buy this: https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-flipper-rebuild-kit-left-and-right-flippers.html and replace all these parts?

Yes you can do that.
Or you can just buy new links/plungers.
Or new links and chamfer the plungers to fix the mushrooming.
Few diffrent ways to go.

Of course that kit doesn't include the flipper bushings which you will also need. And I think you have a few bally/sterns so time to start buying big numbers to have them on hand

#10 9 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Yes you can do that.
Or you can just buy new links/plungers.
Or new links and chamfer the plungers to fix the mushrooming.
Few diffrent ways to go.
Of course that kit doesn't include the flipper bushings which you will also need. And I think you have a few bally/sterns so time to start buying big numbers to have them on hand

This? https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-nylon-flipper-bushing.html

#11 9 months ago

yup, grab a bunch

#12 9 months ago

There is no way your EOS (end of stroke) switch could open.

I suggest you pull apart the flipper assemblies and check the coil stops also.

all the moving parts are dirty when they should be clean, and the non moving coil sleeve.

remember those parts are 40 years old.

it's not a difficult job, if you get stuck jump back on Pinside.

that one kit mentioned above in post #8 (https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-flipper-rebuild-kit-left-and-right-flippers.html) will do both flippers and a wise choice, imo.

If money wasn't an issue you could buy new assemblies, ideally peace of mind for another 40 years:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-195-L-1
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-195-R-1

#13 9 months ago
Quoted from Rikoshay:

If money wasn't an issue you could buy new assemblies, ideally peace of mind for another 40 years:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-195-L-1
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/B-195-R-1

Marco's assemblies are $75 each and they are only $53 each at Pinball Life. Again, Marcos prices on many items, flipper rebuild kits, pop bumper caps and drop targets are much higher than Pinball Life and Pinball Resource.
https://www.pinballlife.com/full-flipper-assembly-for-classic-stern-machines-031980-to-021982.html

#14 9 months ago
Quoted from bluespin:

Marco's assemblies are $75 each and they are only $53 each at Pinball Life. Again, Marcos prices on many items, flipper rebuild kits, pop bumper caps and drop targets are much higher than Pinball Life and Pinball Resource.
https://www.pinballlife.com/full-flipper-assembly-for-classic-stern-machines-031980-to-021982.html

They the same ones? PBL ones had an issue with the flipper travel that you have bend a bracket they ever fix that?

Shipping is a factor in where I order from for sure Marco ends up being cheaper than PBL in a lot of cases for me. Probably should always use pbr as they would def be the cheapest.

#15 9 months ago

Ordered 2 rebuild kits from pb life. Found my Big Game has a broken plunger link too. Is this a hobby or addiction? Started fixing my Meteor and a week later I have parts from 7 diff machines on order. If money wasn't an issue last week, it's going to be this week! Ha!

Thank you all for your help & encouragement. I'm officially addicted. Slightly overwhelmed but feel confident in the advice from these forums. Thanks!

#16 9 months ago
Quoted from slochar:

They the same ones?

I would imagine so.

#17 9 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

By "rebuilt", do you mean I should buy this: https://www.pinballlife.com/classic-stern-flipper-rebuild-kit-left-and-right-flippers.html and replace all these parts?

Yes. Do this. Replace all those parts. Then you’ll won’t have to touch the flippers again.

#18 9 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

Ordered 2 rebuild kits from pb life. Found my Big Game has a broken plunger link too. Is this a hobby or addiction? Started fixing my Meteor and a week later I have parts from 7 diff machines on order. If money wasn't an issue last week, it's going to be this week! Ha!
Thank you all for your help & encouragement. I'm officially addicted. Slightly overwhelmed but feel confident in the advice from these forums. Thanks!

Big Game eh? You’re going to fit in around here just fine.

#19 8 months ago

Rebuilt my 1st flipper & it works great! Soldered wires & everything Thank you all for your help.

Rebuilt the other side & the flipper sticks forward most of the time then slowly drops back or goes back down when ball hits it - it was doing this pre-rebuild. Rebuilt with pblife kit + bushings. Suggestions?

#20 8 months ago

Nylon bushing the flipper shaft rides in okay ? Flipper bat not catching on anything ?

LTG : )

#21 8 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

. Rebuilt with pblife kit + bushings.

Make sure you have a little up down play between the bat and the top of the bushing throughout its entire travel (not just at rest)

#22 8 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

Nylon bushing the flipper shaft rides in okay ? Flipper bat not catching on anything ?
LTG : )

New nylon bushing. Doesn't seem to be catching.

#23 8 months ago

I took the flipper off, cleaned the pf & added a spacer under the bat, put it back together/on and it hasn't been sticking up. Yay!

The new problem is that it's stopping short (see pic) when coming back. From what I can see, the link is hitting the metal piece at the end and not allowing the plunger to go any further. What did I do wrong? I've been tinkering with it for an hour+

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#24 8 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

What did I do wrong?

Loosen set screws and adjust it again so at rest it's where it belongs.

LTG : )

#25 8 months ago

Wtf did you do?

#26 8 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

Wtf did you do?

Ha! It's ruined...

#27 8 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

Loosen set screws and adjust it again so at rest it's where it belongs.
LTG : )

Thanks! Turns out I was just a wuss with tightening

#28 8 months ago
Quoted from SJ23:

Thanks! Turns out I was just a wuss with tightening

Super common when first starting. These can help, expecially in tight areas

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