(Topic ID: 224500)

Stern Flipper Buttons Installed Incorrectly from Factory?


By Reaper802

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    I swear I've seen another post somewhere showing this but I can't find it via search. In the attached photo that screw and washer is a hack from the factory correct?

    If I flip the flipper button nut around it would then be installed as intended and that washer and screw can go away right?

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    #2 1 year ago

    The washer is to keep the nut from vibrating loose? I'd think that way of installing the nut is better since it'll cut into the wood...

    #3 1 year ago

    The nut seems to be correct to me also. The extra washer and screw is interesting. I haven't seen that before but Stern isn't what I normally work on. I've never had a flipper button work itself loose before. Seems like overkill to me.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

    The nut seems to be correct to me also. The extra washer and screw is interesting. I haven't seen that before but Stern isn't what I normally work on. I've never had a flipper button work itself loose before. Seems like overkill to me.

    At our local barcade I've seen it happen three times. Stern and Williams

    #5 1 year ago

    Yes. Washer is to keep it from vibrating loose. Now if those buttons would stop wearing out so quick and flying out of the game, that would be great.

    #6 1 year ago

    But if the stock nut were flipped around wouldn't this become a non issue?

    #7 1 year ago

    That’s standard on all Sterns’s keeps the flipper button nut from coming loose. Seen this on all modern Stern’s....now go play pinball.

    #8 1 year ago
    Quoted from Reaper802:

    f I flip the flipper button nut around it would then be installed as intended

    They are installed as intended as is it now - you want to maximize the surface friction, which is why the flat side is against the game. All flipping it will do is chew into the wood as you tighten it down, but that doesn't mean it won't work itself loose. The lock washer is a definitive way to stop it from backing out, though, why would you want to mess with this? If it's because your art blades aren't lying flat, trim them a couple millimeters and you're done.

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    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    That’s standard on all Sterns’s keeps the flipper button nut from coming loose. Seen this on all modern Stern’s....now go play pinball.

    Its called a cheap hack! Straight from the factory.

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Yes. Washer is to keep it from vibrating loose. Now if those buttons would stop wearing out so quick and flying out of the game, that would be great.

    Yeah, that's become a real problem. What happened to a c-clip on the end of the flipper button post? They come out because the nub just wears down. If there was a c-clip there again, problem solved.

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from Squeakman:

    Its called a cheap hack! Straight from the factory.

    Cheap as opposed to what? Cheap would be not having the washer at all

    Quoted from Reaper802:

    But if the stock nut were flipped around wouldn't this become a non issue?

    Why would it?

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Yes. Washer is to keep it from vibrating loose. Now if those buttons would stop wearing out so quick and flying out of the game, that would be great.

    Hillarious, this has happened to me each time I take my GB to a show. I never find the missing piece

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from Cheddar:

    Hillarious, this has happened to me each time I take my GB to a show. I never find the missing piece

    I don’t think there is a missing piece. All that holds the button in is a small grove that is larger than the hole the button nipple goes into. When that groove wears down, button flies out. Best to replace the button or hack it somehow.

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from zacaj:

    Cheap as opposed to what? Cheap would be not having the washer at all

    Why would it?

    Orders of magnitude more surface area pressed against the cabinet?

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Yes. Washer is to keep it from vibrating loose. Now if those buttons would stop wearing out so quick and flying out of the game, that would be great.

    Man, Haven’t has it happen to any of my games lol but ive sure played games at locations do this! Nothing will piss ya off more than having to grab the button off the floor during a good game or multiball lmao!

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from tilted81:

    Man, Haven’t has it happen to any of my games lol but ive sure played games at locations do this! Nothing will piss ya off more than having to grab the button off the floor during a good game or multiball lmao!

    Yeah. I gotten pretty good at it. Unless you’re putting thousands of plays on your games I doubt it will happen. I keep lots of extra buttons on hand. They are cheap.

    #17 1 year ago
    Quoted from Reaper802:

    Orders of magnitude more surface area pressed against the cabinet?

    soft round flat area vs hard edges? I think this way would turn less anyway

    But either way they're gonna loosen over time

    #18 1 year ago

    They have never come loose on my TSPP. Two nuts are used and locked together.

    #19 1 year ago
    Quoted from chuckwurt:

    Yes. Washer is to keep it from vibrating loose. Now if those buttons would stop wearing out so quick and flying out of the game, that would be great.

    Have had this happen a few times as well. Broke right in two.

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    #20 1 year ago
    Quoted from GravitaR:

    Have had this happen a few times as well. Broke right in two.[quoted image]

    Damn!!

    #21 1 year ago

    You should change your thread title.

    This is how all flippers have been installed from the Stern Factory for many years.

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from MapleSyrup:

    You should change your thread title.
    This is how all flippers have been installed from the Stern Factory for many years.

    Yep. I have a sopranos and GOT. Same.

    #23 1 year ago

    I think I am going to have these in inventory.

    #24 1 year ago

    I like the nut flipped around because then there's more button showing for when you light them up.

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from MapleSyrup:

    You should change your thread title.
    This is how all flippers have been installed from the Stern Factory for many years.

    I disagree.
    The washer and screw are factory; agreed.
    But I'm pretty sure my nuts were installed with the flat part against the cabinet not flipped like the OP showed. Look how lame the side art isn't flush against the cabinet.

    #26 1 year ago
    Quoted from Squeakman:

    Its called a cheap hack! Straight from the factory.

    I thought it was genius.
    hack or not

    #27 1 year ago
    Quoted from GravitaR:

    Have had this happen a few times as well. Broke right in two.[quoted image]

    ^^^THIS. I'm not sure what they changed, but the new flipper buttons don't last at all on route. I've never seen so many broken buttons. Every new game here locally has managed to break multiple buttons in record time. It's not a big deal for home use, but when on route especially depending on how attentive an OP is, that can put the game out of commission for awhile.

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