As you should know, Pinball Magazine No. 5 covered over 180 different games. The books by Michael Shaloub and Marco Rossignoli feature way more than 90 games and as far as I understood they photographed these themselves (but correct me if I'm wrong). If the Stern book is as accurate as this update, it will be a waste of paper.

I'm also curious which games, aside from the known prototypes, had a production run of less than 50.

I'm also curious whether the book will include prototype games like Total Recall, Mad, Checkpoint with alphanumeric displays, Mini Viper, Aaron Spelling, Michael Jordan and such, but with the number of games being limited to 90 I guess that answers my question with a firm 'no'. Data East and Sega Games combined are roughly 65 titles (including prototypes that didn't see a full production run). Not counting the various models of the same game, Stern Pinball has at least 57 different titles listed on IPDB. So with 90 games, they won't be complete anyway. Then why bother about these 6 missing games? Only one word comes to mind: amateurs.

Tell us how you really feel .

Even if they “finish” the book, i find it difficult to believe it will go to print. The money is long gone on playboy joe.

NFL can be counted as one game or as 19! (@hool10, there was no Patriots version, which may be a factor in your not having seen it.)
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I'd be curious about where those games are now, and I wish we had more variations depicted on IPDB. Any book about Stern Pinball ought to document these, as it was a noble experiment.
.................David Marston

I can’t believe I will still have to cough up shipping on two books if this gets made

:applause:did i just read that it has been 2 years to write a book because they are lookin for a sharkeys shootout??????

I thought that was a custom game at TPF. No joke I seriously thought that and it was a Dallas Cowboys game in rough shape for ~$2,300. So I guess I have played every game on that list.

So in the March 2019 NBNL (No Book News Letter) Joe said the book was 90% done and that the Zombi Yeti prints, T-shirts, coffee cups, new Christmas ornaments, etc were going out to the makes of the stuff by March 31st.
Did anyone get any of their stuff or was that more bullshit?

More bullshit.

Unbelievable bullshit.

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I never received the first crappy paper xmas ornament

do they seriously expect us to cough up more money for something that will ultimately be 3 (or more) years late??
and if I don't pay these extra shipping costs, which technically means that I'll never receive my book, can I then claim a refund?

Well, what is the over/under on the quality of this book being better than the Pinball Adventures series? That clown did such a good job on that, he's making 6 production pinball machines! From gutter rakes to pinball in less than a year...what a guy!

No need to worry about that. Unlike Pinball Magazine - where a full page is used for a complete playfield of a modern game - the playfield images in this book will be so small, you won't be able to notice any details...

I may have to eat my book payment rather than send these yahoos more money. Whose to say Joe and a few select interns won't go on another vacation with the shipping money?

No read carefully, is says the end of the year, not end of this year.

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Hopefully every pinsider at expo that sees Gary stern asks him about this book. Another year another embarrassment.

I think it’s shameful that Stern was promoting this thing while we were all giving them our money. Now that it’s a failed disaster and our money is gone they just go silent. Shameful.

Three (3!) years later and they are still looking for games to photograph. Hey Joe, I heard there's a nice Baywatch in Tahiti, maybe better plan your next photo shoot!

yeah, but it doesn't have legs
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but how many exotic destination vacations did you take during that 36 month period? if the answer is less than 10, you're obviously not doing something right

Hell, I did this in a few months WITH 3 vacations in there.....

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did anyone see gary at expo and ask him about the [lack] of their coffee table book?

No point. He's trying to forget about it, or at least hopes you do.

I have a super nice Baywatch and actually sent them a message after that backer email looking for games to shoot, thinking it would be cool to have my game in a book (and maybe help get this done...). Dameon emailed me and then we exchanged numbers and had a few conversations on the phone in early September and arranged a date for him to come by and get pictures of the game with his photographer near the end of September since he is actually local to Ohio. Never heard back from him after that and he never came or said anything about it. I never followed up with him but not feeling great about it...

Hmmm...what would the interns prefer---Ohio? Or Arruba, The Grand Caymans, Las Vegas, Cancun?

Because they don’t care. They’re not making the book. That joker took the money and went on vacation. They took us all for suckers. imho.

Yep, I've already written this thing off. Scammer won't scam me again. I still say shame on Stern for clearly promoting this thing and then being silent. I feel they owe us something since they were clearly involved at some level.

if would be awesome if stern would step up and offer webstore credit for the backer amounts since they so heavily promoted it (and that was the only reason I decided to back the project

but we all know that will never happen

Absolutely. I wouldn’t have backed this without the Stern involvement. I seriously doubt it would have gotten off the ground.

Same here.

serious question
does kickstarter have any provisions for backer recourse for a project owner that fails to bring a project to completion? or do they consider themselves free and clear after a project meets its target goal and they take their cut?

About the only thing they will do is to ban someone from running another KS campaign if they get enough complaints. There is no provision for refunds with KS...it is pure risk to the investor.

Just for giggles, I went back and re-read the first dozen or so pages of this thread. I realize hindsight is always 20/20, but it is just an interesting case in how we all want to believe the best in someone or something, and how a few words put down on paper will somehow convince us a person is a good individual that would never take anyone's money and knows what they are doing. Every con case I worked over the years started out the same way....these people survive by being able to convince others they are just ordinary good folks, and most of the time that decision is based on emotion, and nothing of substance. I am not saying this was necessarily a con...I think the intentions started out well, but lack of foresight and greed got the best of this project, and if there ever is anything that gets produced, I am sure the quality will be very disappointing.

I would not have gone in on this without Stern’s public promotion. They do not have clean hands in my opinion, and owe the backers compensation for this failed project.

Uh oh, that can't be good...guess I'll just have to bust out the super cool X-mas "ornament" again this year and be happy with that.

Last update 65 days ago (I think)

No, it was a con alright.

Any chance of a successful finish, just went out the window.

No, this was dead long ago.

F*ck Paperflock. F*ck Stern.

All I have to say at this point.

Meter finally ran out