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Stern coffee table book Kickstarter?!?


By MinusWorlds

3 years ago



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    #1601 1 year ago

    All the people saying it's "never going to happen they just stole our money", they're quiet now. That's a good thing.

    #1602 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    All the people saying it's "never going to happen they just stole our money", they're quiet now. That's a good thing.

    I guess only 10% of the people wanting the book now are the largest critics on pinside?

    #1603 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    All the people saying it's "never going to happen they just stole our money", they're quiet now. That's a good thing.

    or we're just fed up to the point where we've given up wasting our breath. tell you what ron, give me $325 and you have have my book and rewards

    #1604 1 year ago
    Quoted from paul_8788:

    Yes, because a several thousand dollar pinball machine is exactly the same as a $50 dollar book...
    I get why people are upset, especially those that contributed hundreds. I don't excuse Paperflock and the giant mess they have made out of the project to this point. It's just for me personally a pinball book isn't just something I am going to stress out about.

    I agree...was just having some fun. I didn't invest....I made a comment early on about up front money in one of the threads and was blasted by the folks behind this project, so I walked away.

    #1605 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    All the people saying it's "never going to happen they just stole our money", they're quiet now. That's a good thing.

    #1606 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rondogg:

    All the people saying it's "never going to happen they just stole our money", they're quiet now. That's a good thing.

    I just figured Joe and the intern-of-the-week(end) had way more fun with that $55 than I would have...

    #1607 1 year ago
    Quoted from Manimal:

    Published by Heighway Publications and will be delivered by
    Hydrofoil to your front door.

    Unbound. Jpop will then come to your house and help you staple the pages together.

    #1608 1 year ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    Unbound. Jpop will then come to your house and help you staple the pages together.

    Or, it will LOOK like that's what he's doing, but there will be no staples in the stapler. Only an impotent "click", "click", "click" with nothing to show for it.

    #1609 1 year ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Or, it will LOOK like that's what he's doing, but there will be no staples in the stapler. Only an impotent "click", "click", "click" with nothing to show for it.

    Hey now, I have almost every confidence that Jpop can work a stapler.

    edit: Upon receiving multiple pm's in a very short amount of time from people who had previously worked at Bally/Williams during the 1990's, I must redact my previous statement.

    #1610 1 year ago

    I think it will take at least an additional two years for the stapler design to be finished. It sure will look cool but won’t work worth a darn.

    #1611 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinballlew:

    I think it will take at least an additional two years for the stapler design to be finished. It sure will look cool but won’t work worth a darn.

    I have seen the stapler...it indeed places staples in the paper, but there is no crimp on the back side.

    #1612 1 year ago
    Quoted from vireland:

    Or, it will LOOK like that's what he's doing, but there will be no staples in the stapler. Only an impotent "click", "click", "click" with nothing to show for it.

    stapling is hard ...

    #1613 1 year ago

    Ahh Jpop the joke that keeps on giving

    #1614 1 year ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    Ahh Jpop the joke that keeps on giving

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    #1615 1 year ago

    Blows Paperflock out of the water instead of "do you want shit or kinda shitty".

    #1616 1 year ago

    these guys are only 2 months late
    withphysical progress vs. 2 years late w/ a 5 minute format change

    plus, they apologized for being late. it took 2 years and my post to get joe to admit to that. on the negative side, it appears that AJ is actually going to be late by a minimum of 9 months (9 min mark on their video)

    #1617 1 year ago
    Quoted from j_m_:

    these guys are only 2 months late

    withphysical progress vs. 2 years late w/ a 5 minute format change
    plus, they apologized for being late. it took 2 years and my post to get joe to admit to that. on the negative side, it appears that AJ is actually going to be late by a minimum of 9 months (9 min mark on their video)

    Yeah true but you can likely meet him (I have) at a game show and he does panels, streams, etc. Paperflock nobody knows them and the size of the project is relatively small. I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Paperflock is actually losing money on this project.

    #1618 1 year ago
    Quoted from hool10:

    Yeah true but you can likely meet him (I have) at a game show and he does panels, streams, etc. Paperflock nobody knows them and the size of the project is relatively small. I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Paperflock is actually losing money on this project.

    they can't really lose any money if they never produce the product. given that they raised over $50K to produce less than 500 books, I think that they would really have to piss away a good deal to not have enough funds to produce the actual book

    vireland or jonathan can confirm this

    #1619 1 year ago
    Quoted from hool10:

    I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Paperflock is actually losing money on this project.

    Zidware was technically losing money as well...but JPop still took a lot of money out of the company from customers. I’m guessing they’ve been paying themselves in some way over the past couple of years out of Paperglock...

    #1620 1 year ago
    Quoted from j_m_:

    they can't really lose any money if they never produce the product. given that they raised over $50K to produce less than 500 books, I think that they would really have to piss away a good deal to not have enough funds to produce the actual book
    vireland or jonathan can confirm this

    Let me put it like this: if I was paid $50K to produce 500 books, I would make sure it was ready in time and it would be so impressive that it would create an even bigger demand for reprints.

    #1621 1 year ago
    Quoted from unigroove:

    Let me put it like this: if I was paid $50K to produce 500 books, I would make sure it was ready in time and it would be so impressive that it would create an even bigger demand for reprints.

    Especially since the lion's share of that $50k wasn't even hard costs to print and ship the books.

    3 weeks later
    #1622 1 year ago

    another update...

    Hello Backers!

    Just a quick update to let you know that we are more than halfway through the redesign!

    We started with Laser War, Stern's first machine, and have worked our way all the way through SEGA and are now working on the modern era of games! Some of these games have SO much content to go through and we want to squeeze every little bit of goodness out of this content we can!

    Here are a few machines that have been completed in the last month:

    Harley Davidson

    Starship Trropers & Viper

    South Park
    If you don't know the story of how South Park got made, it's in the book and a good story too!

    We're truckin' on, and moving through these as fast as we can!

    Will update again soon!

    Thank you all for your support! Dameon, Joe, and the Paperflock team

    #1623 1 year ago

    So they’ve really only started working on the book (for real) in the last few months.

    #1624 1 year ago

    If you actually believe what they are saying now.....

    #1625 1 year ago
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    #1626 1 year ago
    Quoted from Phat_Jay:

    If you actually believe what they are saying now.....

    True :-/

    #1627 1 year ago

    man this book looks like absolute shit!

    #1628 1 year ago
    Quoted from Phat_Jay:

    If you actually believe what they are saying now.....

    I sure don’t. If this thing actually ships, do you think they’re going to go through with the pro, premium, and limited editions of the book.

    That’s why I’m pissed, ordered a few of the LEs for gifts, and myself. If this does go to print, it will be below pro standards.

    #1629 1 year ago

    It's starting to actually look like a coffee table style book though. I think we may actually have this book in our hands this year.

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    #1630 1 year ago

    So I guess it will mostly be a cramp-as-many-images-as-we-can-fit-on-a-page book, without any eye for detail.

    #1631 1 year ago
    Quoted from KLR2014:

    another update...
    Hello Backers!
    Just a quick update to let you know that we are more than halfway through the redesign!
    We started with Laser War, Stern's first machine, and have worked our way all the way through SEGA and are now working on the modern era of games! Some of these games have SO much content to go through and we want to squeeze every little bit of goodness out of this content we can!
    Here are a few machines that have been completed in the last month:
    Harley Davidson
    Starship Trropers & Viper
    South Park
    If you don't know the story of how South Park got made, it's in the book and a good story too!
    We're truckin' on, and moving through these as fast as we can!
    Will update again soon!
    Thank you all for your support! Dameon, Joe, and the Paperflock team

    #1632 1 year ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    man this book looks like absolute shit!

    From the examples, the layout looks really inconsistent and poor. For example, I think showing the full plastic set and actual keyfobs a pin came with could be very useful for the present and future, but they don't do it on all of these, and in the case of Harley, they use the plastic set picture as a design element and have it bleeding from one background into another. Also, they have the SAME EAGLE shown in the plastic set and then overlaying the sticker sheet on the left. Crappy.

    #1633 1 year ago

    How many angles do we need to see of Kenny? I'd rather see 27 different angles of Chef's big black chocolatey balls

    #1634 1 year ago
    Quoted from unigroove:

    So I guess it will mostly be a cramp-as-many-images-as-we-can-fit-on-a-page book, without any eye for detail.

    BINGO! This is exactly what its looking like

    #1635 1 year ago

    Hoping for a few bonus pages of Joe and the interns frolicking on vacation...

    #1636 1 year ago

    Wow this is looking more and more amateurish with each update

    #1637 1 year ago

    wow, thought it was just me but too cramped up (especially starship and viper) and would of loved to see a consistent shot of the cabinet, playfield & translite for every game

    if the pages end up being smallish you are not going to see the details - whoever is the art director on this has a crap vision

    #1638 1 year ago

    agreed. at this point, I think that a [small] step in the right direction would be to remove some of the clutter and put in the acetate fold-out pages that show the different components of the machines (empty cabinet [solid sheet of paper] and then transparent pages for hardware in cabinet bottom, empty playfield and populated playfield layers (ramps, posts, spinners, drop target assemblies each as a layer) as well as playfield from underneath [solid sheet of paper] and then gi bulbs, controlled bulbs, subways, coils, drop target assemblies, gi harness, switch harness, coil harness transparent pages)

    I'll bet that the book doesn't even detail the backbox improvements (with images) from the classic stern, dataeast, sega, whitestar, sam, spike and spike 2

    #1639 1 year ago

    I think it looks pretty good, particularly if the rest of the book is filled with good stories and behind the scenes pictures.

    #1640 1 year ago

    Is that it for text? Almost none in those pages.

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    #1641 1 year ago

    After Thursday they will have another machine to add to the book!

    #1642 1 year ago
    Quoted from jellikit:

    After Thursday they will have another machine to add to the book!

    That's likely going to cause a few months extra delay

    #1643 1 year ago
    Quoted from unigroove:

    That's likely going to cause a few months extra delay

    At least a year, I would guess, with the way these guys work.

    #1644 1 year ago

    Maybe otaku could do a chapter on leg bolts....

    #1645 1 year ago

    I guess it doesn't even need to be said that we've crossed their "2 months" timeline since their poll.

    #1646 1 year ago

    They orbit the sun at a slower pace than the rest of us.

    #1647 1 year ago

    Ohh, nothing here either!

    1 week later
    #1648 1 year ago

    We want to make this book as jam-packed as we possibly can, but that means some of these layouts are taking twice as long!

    It's because with many of these more recent machines we have SO much material and we are trying to squeeze as much as we can into the layouts!

    Check out this layout for Simpson's Pinball Party, which has over 40 elements!

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    #1649 1 year ago

    They are right about squeezing in as much as possible on a page ...... damn

    #1650 1 year ago

    Yeh but we can get pictures from google images, what I was hoping for was more about the story of building these games...

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