If Steve did this he should retire. Im betting this steaming turd is a Gary Stern design with SR on it. I cant believe even Stern would put out a POS like this. Areosmith is a much better looking game and its fun.

Next week.

Definitive opinions....for looking at a few grainy photos.

They haven't been on the last several pros or premiums. It sucks. I keep a supply of them on hand to put on any game I buy to put on route.

Yup, difficult to even read the inserts....

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Man gonna take awHile for ball return from those lonnnnng ramps!
So the 4 areas all have 3 levels so it's kind of like ST matrix...without the matrix part?
Think those character inserts could have been a bit more dressed up

The Zen tables are a couple bucks, this is $8k.

And this is why Stern needs to do better with their announcements. You only get one first impression. JJP is still trying to rally back from a bad unveiling of Dialed In (so many people think it's a game about a phone still). Technically Stern still hasn't announced this. The Star Wars Facebook page announced it through a video that claims that Stern announced it. So clearly Stern messed up and fell behind schedule. They keep doing this. TWD was "announced" by a DVD paper slip. Ghostbusters was leaked all over the place and by an ad that ran ahead of announcement. If they don't want to be nitpicked, they need to put out more prepared content.

The game will sell. Don't panic. It's a flubbed announcement (again), but things will be set right once people get to play it. It looks like a fun shooter and Dwight comes up with really neat code.

I'm curious how the jump ramp works under the death star. Looks junk yard a like (dog shot)? But it has a loop on the back of it (with a block post)?

Or is this just a ball exit? Balls seem to arrive from the upper back, loop the playfield in the wireform and end up in the death star and drop out below?

And how is the ball then fed to the upper right back panel exit. Can't seem to find the shot flow for this.

Based on these high-res playfield pics, it looks like the Cowardly Lion is on one of the pops. My kind of Easter egg!

And how fun was Star Wars? Oh that's right, you haven't played it or even seen it. Buh-bye.

Boomchakalaka! Winner!

Total DeJa Vu

I remember the shit storm when they released Star Trek. Exact same comments. Then people played it and for the most part it got good reviews and has become a great game(not a fantastic game but a great game nonetheless). For having to use licensed art it is what it is, wait until gameplay video becomes available and people may change their tune.

Yup, which means Zen is hitting the eyes of that many more people.

The similarity to AC/DC is a strange choice especially considering they are going to be running both. If I was to get a Star Wars I would sell my AC/DC can't justify having two similar pins. I dunno if I would be willing to do that and risk whatever ends up wrong with Star Wars. Just have to wait and see I guess.

Damn I hate Star Wars!!!! But I also hate Metallica, Kiss,Acdc and Star Trek and I want all 4 of those amazing machines lol.if they ever make a title I like I'm in big trouble.

Given that Steve and Dwight are both scheduled to speak there, I'm really looking forward to playing this at the Northwest Pinball Expo next week!

Gotta be better than SWDE and SWT. HAS to be.

There is 0% chance that it will be worse than either of those unless every switch scores the same, there are no modes, and it says mean things about your mother. Specifically your mother.

Yeah but still, if they missed sw convention AND 4th may because it wasnt ready.. and then announce it with no solid material. Anyways, im sure it will play great, like got. Disappointing art, great flow and rules.

Im a huge SW fan , they could have done so much with the the theme.... SO ALL WE GET AS A TOY IS A DEATH STAR? REALLY STERN?

Shouldn't matter... the licencee cares about their brand regardless. The only catch I can see is possibly the idea of 'digital live rendered products' vs physical products.

There is nothing on it for goodness sake. There is a few ramps and a cheap Deathstar toy. A chimp with one thumb up his ass with a box full of parts could have done better.

Nothing overly exciting for me, going to pass on this.

Looking forward to Jaws and lyman
Can only wish.....

Is that a Black Hole style gate in the right outlane on the prem/le?

That would cost another $5 at production. Do you really want another $200 increase for that?

I was joking months ago about a giant bash Death Star toy but wow, I didn't think they wouldn't actually do it, lol.

split in half on a hinge that opens and closes. EPIC.

Man you gotta stay outta Vegas. It's not having a good effect.

I've wanted a Stern Star Trek for a while... I have always been a huge Star Wars fan(well before pinball), If this shoots anything like ST I'll be a happy camper. Although the art is not hand drawn, I feel like they have more of a Hobbit look to the playfield and it doesn't really bother me. Not a homerun in my book, maybe a triple we'll see...with good ruleset maybe a RBI triple!
I also agree with those saying the premium is the best all round cabinet package. Exciting times for the hobby, so many good titles to choose from!

Hey on a positive note I do believe this game will kill it on location, which is what we need to keep pinball alive. The theme goes a long way and operators will be grinning ear to ear.

I like the art on the cabinet and translites. I will wait to reserve judgment on the layout and playfield art at this time until we get more info. Personally, I was looking forward to a 3 flipper game myself.
I think it is interesting the Pro got the High Speed treatment for art on the translite.

Added over 7 years ago: LE not PRO

Space Chimp McGuyver the Thumb Ass. Stern's next pinball?

I was really hoping to be able to say, Stern take my money!
It does look too Data East / Sega.
Having said that, I won't say I'm going to pass.
I need to see the machine in person.
If the call outs are some hick doing bad impressions like Walking Dead, that might kill it for me though.

Walking Dead.

Oh Stern....sigh

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Reminds me of a Zizzle...

They haven't had Lollipop rails on Pro or Premium machines for a while. No biggie. $59 at Pinball life for a pair:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1747

You can get a shaker motor and lollipop rails from Pinball Life for about what the Stern Shaker Motor alone goes for.

How much for some justice for a great license?

The death star looks like the cracked egg on Sega Jurasic park.

Wow, here we go again. Since returning to Stern, Richie pins seem lackluster in art at first viewing and the inserts seem strange, rehashed layout, and the playfield toys (if any) uninspired. However, as a GoT owner who torched the game when it was released, I am reminded to be patient and see it in person and play it. Somehow Richie still seems to make great pins that are fun to play and the art doesn't seem as weak in person. So, the critiques in this thread are about what we've seen in the past. But dang......that playfield sure looks bare for such as expensive game.

Judgment reserved until I play it. GoT is my favorite recent pin because of the stacking, depth and multiple paths to the Iron Throne. This could be similar.

I *almost* can say it's hard to do much worse than the 4 terrible to meh Star Wars pins released so far, but like I said, I better play this first. Hoping for a GoT-level surprise (minus orbit fails that are "as designed").

Is wear really an issue with the decals they use these days? I totally get it for the old screen printed cabs (first Tron run and backwards).

Yeah I'm with you here. It's a weird thing because you of course "want you monies worth" but just slapping shit all over the PF doesn't make it a great game, see GB. Then you have a game like GOT which has basically nothing on it, but plays 10 times better than GB.
GB looked like a DE, and kind of played like one.
This looks like a Sega, but I ope it doesn't play that way.
We shall see.

Too early to judge this one, especially without seeing it, hearing it and playing it. First impressions though...I'm guessing the artist that did GOT artwork also did this one, artwork between both look similar which is not a good thing.

The toys? Death Star exploding toy is kinda cool but it seems like a waste as a main toy, need to see it action. I like that there's a motorized target bank in the game and the warp ramp seems kinda cool.

As for the LE? Forget it, Stern has gone bonkers charging what they are for LE's over premiums for very little features in return.

The good. Stern has the rights to use original audio and clips from the original films. This is huge and the game would be a dud without it. There's still hope but damn that artwork.

BTW, the quality of them rails are horrible.

This game will be epic. I bet they build 10k

For very light home use, maybe not, but on route, yes.

We've put out many pairs of these and never had an issue. What's your quality complaint?

It's weird that they announced this in a no-man's land when they could have revealed it at Pin A GoGo a week ago.