You tired? Maybe you could mention your Aerosmith pin again...and again...and again. This is a Star Wars pin thread. And you can't throw out the "You don't have one in your collection so you can't say anything" argument...nobody does and we haven't even seen gameplay. We've seen "samples" of the art and PF layout, so anybody can have an opinion...and clearly people do. As I said above, I will reserve my final critique for after I've seen one in person and played it. In reality, that's all anybody can really do.

But I am a Star Wars fan, and I'm allowed to be disappointed with what I'm seeing given all the possibilities and potential this theme had. Period.

Agreed. That's the bottom line.

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Star Wars had 3 versions in its original release, 70mm with 6 track dolby stereo, 35mm dolby stereo, and 35mm mono. Supposedly only 32 theaters were equipped to handle the 70mm 6 track version. 35mm mono is the format the vast majority of people saw it in back in 1977.

Here is some interesting trivia on the stereo myths regarding Star Wars:

"Another matter of interest (and controversy) is the presentation type audiences experienced in the opening weeks of release. Numerous books, trade publications, magazine and Internet articles, and fan recollections have over the years attributed "Star Wars" as having an exclusive opening in the "Dolby Stereo" process ("Dolby System" as it was then known), or having an exclusive "70mm Six-Track Dolby Stereo" opening with the 35mm versions appearing weeks later, or that the movie was the first ever to be released in Dolby Stereo. None were true! A few films were released in various forms of Dolby Stereo prior to "Star Wars" on a limited or test engagement basis such as "Tommy" (1975), "Nashville" (1975), "Lisztomania" (1975), "Logan's Run" (1976), and "A Star Is Born" (1976), though "Star Wars" was the first attempt at a wide release in the format. It appears that the distributor sought to book the film at the producers' urging in as many theatres as possible willing to install Dolby sound systems. The number of suitably-equipped venues, however, fell short of the total number of prints initially put into circulation. As for release prints in the deluxe (and expensive to produce) 70-millimeter format -- with its superior projection quality and exquisite six-track magnetic audio capability -- they were kept to a minimum. "

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Yeah I agree besides scoops, pops, drops, ramps, slings, and flippers, and I'd bet something like a kickback, magnet, or some other ritchie trick, there's very little for the ball to interact with. Very basic! SAD!

Game is basically a flipperless circa 1938.

I guess Im as critical as anyone else.

Sure, it will be fast, and fun.
There will be some decent code....maybe predictable.
We will play it more, we will like it more....

But purchasing one?.......

Dont know. Space has certainly dried up, we know about costs, yet somehow, I want that "something"

For me, Dialed in has it, Maybe Houdini.

But today I inquired about a low AS, or reluctantly, ahem...my ass is in trouble here, a Stars.

Not hard for me to be thrilled with Star Wars to play, just not sure it will be in the home......

You've seen it all yet have you? Why not wait to express your outrage when you actually see the real deal? Period.

Btw, AS kicks ass, again.

Iceman in real life...

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Nailed it! Exactly as I imagine him too!

Pinside in real life NP........

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No sense of humor tonight?

I'm in my own whiny mode Art. Aggravated by Alien, yet excited by SW AND for the benefit of the Colonel, I F ING LOVE AS!

You da man Art.

You all can come try mine when it arrives. It will probably be a premium arriving around March.

Sorry, I forget about Alien bumming you out.

I have a good feeling youll be OK there....

BTW..I'm in line for an AS, because its a blast!
Just imagine if GB had photoshop Art.......Wed have AS Godlike threads!

That pic is a forgery. No plaid pants on that kid!

Really? Did u even read my post? Maybe you can tell me what these other "Ritchie tricks" are because that was the point of the post.

After reading through and following the RAZA, MG, AIW shitfest thread for so long, I was thinking more like...

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All in good fun Ice.

I read your post and it sucked.

My bad. I meant understand, not read.

LMFAO

Nah, Rick at least had his dad to always keep him in check...especially if/when he drank!
Unless you meant Ice is Rick's dad? (Which would also be pretty accurate.)

All good fun here Ice!
Sad to see you wound so tight these days.
Come out to Banning for Pinball Madness this October (20-22) to get some quality Rn'R. We'll play Stars, drink Modelo, and consume mass quantities of El Farolito.
Also,
For the supposed "whiny" record, I'm only commenting on art so far. (Aka channeling my pre-Alien inner Aurich! )
Gameplay as always with these flaccid Stern un-nouncements is still up in the air.

Pew pew pew

I just ordered my new topper from Walmart:

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Ages 3 and up...

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Funko-POP-Star-Wars-Slave-Leia-Vinyl-Bobble-Head-Vaulted-Edition/47457906?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=2188&adid=22222222227034725783&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=84369966296&wl4=pla-135212103416&wl5=9016873&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113146021&wl11=online&wl12=47457906&wl13=&veh=sem

Vid, the consummate Pinside "habitual line stepper."

B-b-b-but Disney yanked slave Leia in...
Please.
That outfit is iconic.
Prints money to this day as Vid has been kind enough to show throughout the thread.
Ain't no way big D goes completely cold turkey on that.
Plus,
"Slave" Leia also kicked a bunch of ass in that skimpy outfit lest we forget.
(Way more than all the classic Disney princesses combined if I'm not mistaken.)

Man I miss the wit and wisdom of Carrie Fisher.

So days has gone by. Anything new from stern? Pics? Confirmation of any sort? Or still just SW background on there fb page.

Just played a very nice Cirqus Voltaire tonight and a Mideval Madness original right next to a premium BM66. Wow, what a difference in quality and overall value between the old BW classics and the new cookie cutter Sterns. I can't see Star Wars being any different. Who really cares about a couple of cheap LCD screens when there's obvious cost cutting measures on the playfield and unfinished code?

I felt the same going from DI to BM66, which really underlined how flimsy Sterns feel. Mostly it's just disappointing, which is a potent and frustrating emotion. I want pinball to progress as an art form and game style, and if anything Stern is just treading water, if not actually regressing.

Stern is making a lot of cash. That is what they care about.

Well, yeah, I think that's generally understood.

my dream you take ACDC for the layout and smooth shots, TWD for the gameplay and it gives SW in its famous atmosphere.

Stern will come up with some rails to add to that premium. I agree that the premium looks best (cabinet and backglass). No need for me for an LE, but maybe that changes after specs are available.

If you would go with standard lollipop rails what color what color would you powder coat the rails and legs to make the premium stand out.
Purple, Light blue, steel blue or metallic light blue or gray.....? Anyone with some Photoshop skills

A mix of some some random bits bright orange and the rest basic gray to match the snow speeders in the movie. Pick a couple: Orange coin door?, buttons, maybe something else crazy like orange back legs or something. Maybe orange grills. Then the rest grey.

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Iceman is most annoying Pinside user, period.

it's a shame chewie, c3po and yoda don't get their character inserts (not that I can see anyway), collect the team of characters for a mission or training etc.

SR seems to have lost his originality as the games are getting even more bare and features & layout designs repeated and relying more on code, now looking forward to Dennis, Keith and John's games.

give me the old style display and a better pin. i think stern is focusing on the color display to make the game experience better. frankly they dont have the coding/coders to do this. this color display might not be a great thing for stern after all.

Guess my point was they don't care much about the rest unless it hits their bottom line.

I feel SR is a little ham stung on this title. With star trek there's always a new story to tell star trek Is about exploring and new obstacles to over come, this leaves fresh material to use.

Star wars is all about destroying to death star hence the remake of desw and the starwars movie swtfa.

I'm a richie fan and i'm sure star wars will sell well though I won't get one it's time for new designers new idea's not ham strung by license. fresh idea's.

Stern have delivered a 40th anniversary pin like it or not with 40 year old graphics.

Uber funny shit right there Mr Vid.

SW get his fans, i can understand that, but for sure as a pinball lover, i'm OK with the majority and the fact that 1st meeting with this pin & that artwork make me feel quite negative :/

now of course, gameplay + code could do it, but 1st impression remain bad

Everyone hated on dialed in too when it was first announced.

Yes, exactly. I think the point to be made is games don't need to roll out this way. They can turn it more positive from the start.

And fine, someone will always complain about Kiss code or cabinets or something, but you don't need to have everyone sour on the announcement right out of the gate.

Stern lovers and Star Wars fans all I can say is, I'm sorry.

Well I decided to pass on my LE, I had a gut feeling that it was not for me. I really did not want to pay over 8K for a rehashed AC/DC. So disappointed, like a kid at Christmas who gets a pair of socks. Oh well, so many good titles out there. I am now leaning towards Houdini. Anyone selling older HUO pins to buy SW-hit me up (;

Not everyone here is hating on the machine.

From what we've seen, I'm excited for my LE.

I remember the night of the "Dialed In Reveal" and all the negative response here, now when you read the comments here it must be the best game ever.
Something is wrong with the pinsiders, every new game get's bashed the more hype it got before the release.
I bet in a few month the first reviews will come in and Star Wars will be the best game ever.

And in a few years Dialed In will still have it's fans and Stern Star Wars will still have it's fans. And we will love both games, cause we love pinball. But we will still bash the next new shit that will come out then.

You seem to be more disappointed to not have spent your money then not bought SW.
I'm sure you already have some HUO to buy now.

I'm not feeling it with SW and I'm still not feeling it with DI either.

Still hoping (but losing faith) that Alien ships. AS looks like the most fun you can have right now and Houdini and Total Annihilation look interesting.

This should be made for every new game imo. Hell the club threads get shit on from time to time even.

im so exited about my commin SW LE, dont understand the critisisim without trying the game.

Total (nuclear) Annihilation looks/sounds great, im on the list when its comes out, any release date on it?

All this negative talk about the game is such great news.. I wrote my favorite reseller in late March and asked to get on the LE pre-list, and they told me there was already 40+ people on it. I'm hoping that everyone else decides they don't want one, so I can get one.

In the end, I think the artwork is the least important thing to me. I just want a fun lasting game that doesn't fall apart.

I was really interested in BM66 - love love love the art package and theme - but once I played the machines in Allentown, I lost interest.
Game was not a lot of fun, and out of the 3 or so machines there, I think 2 had broken/missing parts and with one the turntable thingy stopped working.

DI was exact opposite - theme and artwork turned me off, played the game in person and love it.

S0 .... give me a great fun game with a decent theme and some sort of a quality build, and I can overlook average artwork.