Holy crap Batman!! That is one sweet garage/mancave/ready to go barcade!
Very nice

"This will be my last Stern product"

Sure it will........

If I was Stern I wouldn't even want you as a customer. I see nothing but potential problems with you down the road with your belligerent tough guy personality anyway. Why don't you just cancel your order and get your money back? That's how you show them that you mean business!

Thanks!
Can't wait to add SW to the mix! I'm thinking of putting it where x-men is so the door in the middle will keep it from constantly bickering with ST as to which universe is better.......

Pretty fun pin. Finally was able to try it out. Shots are buttery smooth, light show is awesome, and the video implementation is actually pretty good. I stayed away from stacking modes, and had a blast going through the different modes/scenes.

In pockets, I felt like I was in the Star Wars universe, albeit behind a couple of flippers. But then there were major moments where I felt like I was pulled out of the immersion, and was just playing a pinball.

So what pulled me out? It wasn't toys, it wasn't multipliers, it wasn't any of that.

It was how little John Williams score was actually used in the game. Most of us have seen this movie a billion times, and have played the countless arcade and home console video games twice as much. There are certain John Williams themes which are synonymous with certain Star Wars moments. Without that soundtrack/themes, those moments just don't feel complete.

Take the Death Star attack scene, for example. From the actual "A New Hope" movie, to Sega Star Wars Trilogy (video game) in the arcade, to Rogue Squadron on the Nintendo Game Cube to even Super Star Wars on the old Super Nintendo, when it's time to attack the Death Star, that John Williams "Battle of Yavin" theme has always been the soundtrack which drives the emotion of that moment. It helps put us in that X-Wing cockpit, feeling like we're racing down that trench to fire a torpedo into that exhaust port to destroy the Death Star. Yet in this pin, that major element is taken away from us.

Link to soundtrack I'm speaking about:

(Especially from the 5:27 mark on.)

Instead, we're given a different MIDI sequenced soundtrack that, while decent, just isn't what we've come accustomed to in that major Star Wars scene. It really took me out of the moment, removed me from the immersion, made it feel "not Star Wars".

There were other moments too which I really felt would have immersed me, made me feel like I was in that scene, simply by using the proper John Williams score.

Is this something that can be addressed with a future software update?

And don't get me wrong, I'm not in the "I hate this game" camp. But man, it really needs that John Williams score to help draw emotion in those major Star Wars moments.

I read somewhere on here TJS they only had rights to 3 songs because they were too expensive. No idea if that's fake news or real news.

Gotta wait in line my friend, they can't crank them out all in one day. Do you cut in line at the DMV? They don't offer wait times there either, so I don't plan lunch with a friend anywhere around that time. Just like I wouldn't plan a "party" around a pre-order pin that hasn't shipped yet.

Yeah, I don't know. Shouldn't the John Williams score be accounted for as a necessary expense when building a Star Wars pin? Think about all of the video games, heck, even the Zen pinball games that use numerous John Williams score/themes to bring those scenes to life. Just feels like a bad area to cut corners.

Anyways, I don't wanna be "that guy" beating this game to death. Other than this issue (which is a major one for me personally) I'm still enjoying the game for what it is.

I think the music is great on this pin, who ever did the OG stuff did a very good job. I mean for me you could play the Imperial march the whole time and I'd be happy but no complaints especially considering how terrible the music is in most pins.

Since when does holding people accountable for what they say make me a belligerent tough guy. Is that how you make big purchases decisions just let them say and do what ever.. yup makes perfect sense..

I'll stick to the secondary market going forward thanks for your opinion

Uh...who's YOUR distributor? You're getting ripped off...

I'm in Texas, so that includes sales tax and invisible glass so not too far off. The pin itself is 8500 my distributor will deliver and set everything up and I have a second floor game room which is a bitch to get a pin up to. They are really good in regards to making sure everything is solid when delivered.

I was playing last night on code .85 last night and experienced a game reset while having a good game. i forget what character, and mode mb mode i was in, but i think i stacked another mb that resulted in the crash. Is code .87 having reset problems too?
Or is it just .85 that was prone to resets?

its just .85 i havent had one reset with .87

I will get my LE friday.
Monday We are doing 3 hours Facebook live, from 20-23 Copenhagen time.
Will post a link.

See you all

Exactly this. Use a local distributor if you can. My local guy here in Vegas (Planet Nine Pinball) wouldn't take ANY money from me when I had him order my MET pro LED. Once it came in he delivered it, set it up, made sure it was all good to go, helped me install my mods I already had pre ordered ahead of time and then we played some pinball. THEN after all was good he collected my check for the full amount. If I didn't like it, I was out ZERO dollars. Heck, while he was over he even helped me with an issue I was having with my BSD as he services Williams also. Just a super amazing guy can't say enough good things about Planet Nine in Las Vegas. Anyway, local distributors are beneficial to you!!

dont waste you time with who-dey. He either works for Stern, is an Alt Account, or a hidden fan boy with an agenda. He will troll and defend for Stern till the end of time. Research his forum static and you will find that he spends the majority of his time defending and trying to brush aside legit concerns and complaints for paying customers.

Are you saying Stern is the DMV of pinball?

Yes, yes that is exactly what I was trying to say. I yi yi

Yeah, but .87 has bugs that break the game in the other direction. There are a lot of bad bugs still in the code.

I think Dwight is a fantastic coder, but he is known for a lot of bugs that take quite some time to get worked out. Ghostbusters still has a lot that need to be fixed.

Just spoke to my distro. My LE should be shipping in about a week.

First NIB!

What a fantastic theme and pin for you first NIB! I just emailed my dist. to see on the delivery date, looking forward to having a SW pin finally.

Not true at all, I wish that I worked for Stern though.....that would be pretty awesome. The guy is being extremely unreasonable and quite frankly very Whiney, and several other people on here feel the same way. I can understand why you don't though because you are just like him. I have said plenty of bad things about Stern on here but I don't try and make it my job in life like you and others to put them out of business.

I want Stern to succeed because I love this hobby and they make fun games. A lot of this complaining on this site by you and a handful of others is getting old and a lot of times blown way out of proportion actually. All of the complaining on here is just a drag sometimes. If you don't like what they are selling then don't buy it it's that simple. Don't keep going on and on about it like a broken record. I have four recent Stern pins and they are a blast and I love them and I think Stern makes awesome games. I'm not going to apologize for that sorry and if I hated this hobby as much as you and others appear to, I would just get out and find another hobby.

I never said anything bad about the games I love the games if anything I give Stern the benefit of the doubt on their new releases I mean shit I'm the dope dropping cash on a Stern game with bad press that I haven't seen or played!! Pretty stupid IMO but there you go I did it! My complaint is legit, it's about the business practice not the game so stop being a jerk to the guy stroking the check expecting clarity around his purchases. The service responsibility is not solely on the distributor it extends to the manufacturer as well! Frankly, I don't even know why I'm bothering to explain or even respond to this I figured this would be common sense for anything whether it's a House, Car, toys what ever..

Working for or with Jody would be nothing short of a nightmare.

Damn it I agree with you again

So if you bought a new car and it didn't get here as quickly as you wanted it to, are you going to call General Motors or the dealer that you bought it from? GM would think you are nuts if you called them direct I guarantee it, just like Stern did. This is a factory that is making pinball machines. They run into snags and have manufacturing problems etc. you "pre ordered" a brand new title that wasn't in production yet so you should expect possible delays. If you wanted to have a game guaranteed for your party then you should have bought a game that was in stock already. Just relax and tell the people at your party sorry but the pinball machine didn't get here in time, not a big deal really unless it's a party just for this game or something. If that's the case then you should have known better to schedule a party for a game that you were waiting on to be manufactured.

I work with people far worse than Jody trust me!

Exactly what I was saying too.

Well the good news is the game is a secondary attraction and the party is for the McGregor fight. With Stern Telling me two weeks and at the time being six weeks away from the party I pretty much thought I had time on my side. At the end of the day I just won't be playing into these pretend supply and demand scenarios next time around. I'll wait until they are on the street..

Stern told you 2 weeks? More likely they said LE's would start shipping in 2 weeks. It takes a while to make 800 games.......

Probably the best way to do it honestly but it's also pretty exciting to inbox a new game! I hope McGregor smashes Mayweather!

2nd rule is to use the "Goodie" comb from your back pocket.

Yeah some fakers did that, we used to call them "pencil pushers"

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And that's where we get the term from

Enjoy! The first NIB pin is a great experience. I wish I could afford to do it more often.

It's your distro IMO

I think some distros have deep pockets/credit & make large orders to keep stock high. Others I suspect have limited working capital, be it liquid or credit, so they make smaller orders & the results are you waiting for another shipment.

Unless production of your model has not begun? If so, well, that is what it is.

Thanks for the advice, I want to believe my distributor is in good standing they do have a pretty good sized operation and they have taken good care of me on previous purchases. I'll give it one more week if I don't have any answers on delivery dates I'll just cancel it and sit tight for something else later on down the road. Fingers cross for some good news soon..

Man talk about friggin first world problems.

Hahaha so true! That my friend is the post of the day

uhhhhhh prediction.....In a week Stern will be maybe 1/3 maybe 1/2 the way through the LE run and you still won't have word on a delivery date, but you'll keep on waiting.

Agreed.

I'm @ home today trying not to puke.

There's a NIB en route to my house today.

Will it arrive safely? Will it arrive on time? What about concealed damage? Will it ghost? Is the cabinet going to split? Will the software & bugs get taken care of? What about node boards?

The life of a pinball idiot is a difficult one

did you jump back in? last i read you were out on buying NIB and your distro didnt have any AS in stock.

Have some Skittles™ and try to relax! You'll be playing before you know it.

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Nothing like waiting for a NIB pin and that first play. Congrats. Good luck. From what I've seen, if there is a major problem Stern and your distro will help you out in most instances.

Alrighty - just ordered a Premium. The wait commences...

I'm an idiot & very indecisive. I ordered it Friday

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Who did you buy from that is delivering it to your house? I ask because i live very close to you.

They all deliver to your house. Either it is drop shipped directly from Stern or it comes from the distro's stock.

Not as fun or as rewarding as "the hunt" but you do get the cold sweats as you pop open the box