KISS (LE)
Stern, 2015
KISS (Premium)
Stern, 2015
KISS (Pro)
Stern, 2015Quoted from PanzerFreak:The game looks pretty cool the more I look at it, especially the pro. I'm surprised by a couple things on the LE though.
1. Why isn't the side artwork more unique compared to the pro and premium versions? Having side artwork that goes with the design of the back glass would look much better in my opinion.
It's foil decals - so I think it'll match pretty well with the mirrored backglass.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:I've been saying since the game was announced that they would be using the 2009 re-recordings.
Kiss did this EXACTLY for this reason. They don't have to share money with the record company (and likely can withhold money they'd have to pay ace and peter) by using these.
This mixed with the fact that they used the re-recording of Detroit rock city in that stern promo makes it clear that's what's happening.
Are the re-recordings all that different from the originals?
Quoted from Rarehero:It's foil decals - so I think it'll match pretty well with the mirrored backglass.
Oh? Nice. I didn't notice that. That will look nice.
Quoted from TomGWI:Are the re-recordings all that different from the originals?
That's for you to judge, but as they were recorded by a bunch of 60 year olds 20-35 years later with different personnel and different equipment id say yes.
I don't really see it as an issue especially in a pinball machine. But kiss hardcores may have a problem with it. They will certainly be able to tell the difference.
Quoted from Sparky:I make a Micro Display Mod for about 30 titles. I would love to make one for KISS in the future, but I've been told the new SPIKE system doesn't have the same 5v/12v plug by the coin door that other Sterns have had. I would need an easy way to tap a 5v source.
» YouTube video
480P video? Might want to get some HD vids out there.....help sell your product. That looks real blurry.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:That's for you to judge, but as they were recorded by a bunch of 60 year olds 20-35 years later with different personnel and different equipment id say yes.
I don't really see it as an issue especially in a pinball machine. But kiss hardcores may have a problem with it. They will certainly be able to tell the difference.
Gotcha. I was just curious.
so using the 2009 re-recordings... do we get to call the Kiss game a reFake like so many want to paint MMR as ? 
Quoted from zucot:So did Jared get to play or no?
Looks like he definitely said something he wasn't supposed to.
Quoted from Aurich:Looks like he definitely said something he wasn't supposed to.
Does anybody remember what Jared had in his post that he wasn't suppose to say...? 
Quoted from zucot:So did Jared get to play or no?
Quoted from Aurich:Looks like he definitely said something he wasn't supposed to.
Quoted from ronlisa:Does anybody remember what Jared had in his post that he wasn't suppose to say...?
Yeah, but what was it? C'mon, someone must have read those posts ...
He didn't really write too much, just that he was visiting Stern today for an undisclosed reason and that he would ask about some of the rushed art issues.
Edit: he also mentioned that Jody has some GOT sword hanging in his office
Quoted from CrazyLevi:That's for you to judge, but as they were recorded by a bunch of 60 year olds 20-35 years later with different personnel and different equipment id say yes.
I don't really see it as an issue especially in a pinball machine. But kiss hardcores may have a problem with it. They will certainly be able to tell the difference.
If you guys ever have time, check out the album Little Richard did in the 90's, same thing, he re-recorded all his original songs. It's so good, you can't really tell a difference, other than the recording is cleaner. He was already in his 60's and still able to sing all his crazy shit about exactly the same. Prob. the best re-recording I've ever heard.
In his case, and a lot of artists, the reason they re-record it is because when you record stuff, they split the royalties in half and pay half to who owns the songwriting credits, and half to who owns the recording (which is usually the record label). If you re-record the song, you now own the recording and get that half of the royalties. In Little Richard's case, he no longer owned the songwriting credits but now could get half the royalties because he owned the re-recordings.
If Gene still owns the songwriting credits (I'd imagine he does), and owns these re-recordings (I'd be almost certain he does) then he gets *all* the money.
Hi-res translite photo here:
https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/11200981_10153274263104244_6228738509879534426_o.jpg
Quoted from fosaisu:Yeah, but what was it? C'mon, someone must have read those posts ...
He said he saw GOT parts around the place (implied boxes of PIN parts) but nowhere near the production line/s, and also that Jody had a <persons/actors name I forgot> GOT sword and lots of Star Wars stuff......fwiw.
Nothing too revealing as GOT is the worst kept secret in ages, unless you think the Star Wars hint means anything as Jack hinted he might have it as well......guess Gary and Jack will have to dual that one out with their light sabers (who is red and who is green 
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Quoted from TimeBandit:I hate to bring this up, but Ace's guitar doesn't have a strap at all.
The way the Ace wears his strap, under his shoulder costume pieces, and the type of strap that it is, plain black, I don't think you would really see much of it in that crouching pose he is in.
Quoted from foureyedcharlie:Revised translite is posted on Stern's Facebook......guitar strap is fixed
I didn't bother to check everything little nitpick I'd spotted, but from a casual look over I see a lot of other fixes too. So the other one was just rough artwork probably. Whatever happened I'm glad to see the changes, so all good. What's shipping on the machines is all that counts.
Quoted from paulywalnuts23:The way the Ace wears his strap, under his shoulder costume pieces, and the type of strap that it is, plain black, I don't think you would really see much of it in that crouching pose he is in.
"Can't see the lines, can ya, Russ."
90% of this thread has been about the artwork. I'm surprised the people who are spending their hard earned cash on an LE like myself, aren't screaming about Stern using the left over red AC/DC trim on this otherwise phenomenal looking machine. I've seen a couple of posts and mock up pics suggesting/showing burnt orange trim that makes the LE look a hundred times better. Jared if you can suggest this to Stern, I think this would improve the over all look of the LEs just as much as some of the artwork changes mentioned. Am I in the minority on this or what? If I am, I will just get my trim powdered coated in a burnt orange to fit my preference. Otherwise, hopefully Stern will hear us and make the changes!
Hopefully back box lighting will be like bally and spell out KISS ? Or someone needs to get on that mod ! I'm taking a premium and doing a burnt orange metallic powder coating, the red is Bunk !
Quoted from Aurich:It is a bit like that actually. It's a bad photo, and not composed well. If that photo was used on a translite, or as the reference for it, it would be a poor choice. It looks awkward. Yes, she has a full arm. But it looks bad.
I haven't been nitpicking the art myself, but if I wanted to I'm perfectly capable, there's plenty of stuff there to pick at. There are a lot of signs that it was a rush job, for whatever reason. I've chosen not to because I think overall it was a positive move on Stern's part, and it doesn't seem worth trying to tear down.
But I don't like it when people get all bent out of shape over some criticism. Rarehero has an opinion (that I and other people happen to think is right), he gave it in a constructive manner, and took the time to hand draw an example sketch to illustrate his point. That's a useful contribution to the community. Frankly, whining about it isn't.
Aww c'mon! Want your take on this artwork like you did for TH. Why give this one a pass?
Quoted from fosaisu:Yeah, but what was it? C'mon, someone must have read those posts ...
He said the had Jon Snows sword on the wall and a bunch of Star wars stuff all over.
So yea GoT and Star wars upcoming!!!
Quoted from Toads:I'll be laser cutting new trim with the kiss heads laser cut and powder coat it black and back it with chrome.
Hmmmm. That gives me some ideas for cool toppers but something tells me anything more than a one-off would very quickly get me a c&d in the mail.
Quoted from ZippyThePinhead:90% of this thread has been about the artwork. I'm surprised the people who are spending their hard earned cash on an LE like myself, aren't screaming about Stern using the left over red AC/DC trim on this otherwise phenomenal looking machine.
I was initially thinking of getting an LE before pics came out. Once I saw them, I immediately changed to wanting the Premium.
Can someone explain to me why the LE is $1800 more? What does it have besides the foil cab decals, the mirrored backglass, and the god-awful red lollipop armor? Oh, and it's "limited".
Quoted from RobertWinter:I was initially thinking of getting an LE before pics came out. Once I saw them, I immediately changed to wanting the Premium.
Can someone explain to me why the LE is $1800 more? What does it have besides the foil cab decals, the mirrored backglass, and the god-awful red lollipop armor? Oh, and it's "limited".
A certificate! You forgot the certificate 
Quoted from ZippyThePinhead:90% of this thread has been about the artwork. I'm surprised the people who are spending their hard earned cash on an LE like myself, aren't screaming about Stern using the left over red AC/DC trim on this otherwise phenomenal looking machine. I've seen a couple of posts and mock up pics suggesting/showing burnt orange trim that makes the LE look a hundred times better. Jared if you can suggest this to Stern, I think this would improve the over all look of the LEs just as much as some of the artwork changes mentioned. Am I in the minority on this or what? If I am, I will just get my trim powdered coated in a burnt orange to fit my preference. Otherwise, hopefully Stern will hear us and make the changes!
Orange trim is a big yes
Quoted from RobertWinter:I was initially thinking of getting an LE before pics came out. Once I saw them, I immediately changed to wanting the Premium.
Can someone explain to me why the LE is $1800 more? What does it have besides the foil cab decals, the mirrored backglass, and the god-awful red lollipop armor? Oh, and it's "limited".
It now has added "sold-outness".
Quoted from mufcmufc:A certificate! You forgot the certificate
........with Gary's signature. Thats $1800 of it right their!
Quoted from ZippyThePinhead:Here is a comparison of 2 LEs with red & orange trim...
(Borrowed this image from one of Jared's posts...Thanks Jared!)KISS LE Orange Trim.jpg
It looks 100% better in Orange
Quoted from Squizz:Hmm so Kiss no longer Limited to 600?
There has been talk with Gary regarding upping the Le to 699.
These will sell out no problem IMO. Plenty of cashed up KISS fans out there to purchase.
rd.
Quoted from Sparky:"Can't see the lines, can ya, Russ."
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Quoted from paulywalnuts23:The way the Ace wears his strap, under his shoulder costume pieces, and the type of strap that it is, plain black, I don't think you would really see much of it in that crouching pose he is in.
Can't see it? Plain black??? Ace's incredibly iconic lightning bolt strap is pretty clearly visible in that photo.
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