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Stern announces another price increase- TELL THEM NO!


By shacklersrevenge

2 years ago



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    #156 2 years ago
    Quoted from badbilly27:

    Sorry, have to jump in here. I wish Heighway nothing but success with Alien. But went to the Expo unveil at Twin Peaks and they barely had the games working - in fact we were there for over an hour and saw 2 minutes of gameplay because couldn't get to work. At their own party!! I heard later in the evening and at Expo people saw them working.
    So while I'm hoping its turns out great, lets be careful talking "well made" and Alien in same breadth until proven.

    Yeah an that bm66 played so well... Lol

    Actually the PROTOTYPE aliens played just fine on sat and sunday at expo. Full throttle is also the best built new machine i have seen in the past few years. Extremely well made and well thought out engineering also.

    #366 2 years ago

    Lyman leaving stern? Ritchie retiring?

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    #426 2 years ago
    Quoted from docquest:

    At Expo George and Gary specifically pointed out that they choose their LCD size so that the backbox art would still be there and be prominent.

    those 2 are salesmen.

    Reality is they knew they were WAY behind on leaving dots for color LCD, they wanted to specifically avoid the direct comparison to JJP and Heighway as much as possible (since they will fail in that comparison), wanted to shave costs by using a smaller LCD display, and decided the best thing was to spin it as "backbox art is important"

    You gotta look through their hype for the reality most of the time.

    #443 2 years ago
    Quoted from frolic:

    One thing to consider is their LCD is going in all models, including their Pro, which none of their competitors try to match on price. If their LCD is inferior to others, its because of maintaining the Pro line.

    LCD cost pennies now-a-days and even Stern admits that. There is supposed extra cost in the people making the images, but in talking with those in the know dots took more time then LCD images do. Just a different skill set.

    Other manufacturers offer a PRO model that is full featured with nothing taken out. It is those other items that likely bump the 'pro' / standard/ whatever it is called model.

    Reality is that if Stern is trying for 5k or now the rumored price fixing at 5300 for a Pro then things like a full featured JJP standard, Spooky regular, or Heighway regular are in the same price realm for an actual and complete game.

    #444 2 years ago
    Quoted from Hazoff:

    R u guys for real? Prices increase on most items every year from food to electricity so on and so on and all of these factors play a role in the increased pricing of manufactured goods and a lot of other areas, I would agree prices are too high but to make it out like ur some victim when you don't have to buy pins is really stupid, priced out then find a new hobby. Jesus am I the only one that can see whats happening here, these guys know this won't last and are capitalizing, same thing in the used market, 3 to 4K for a Shadow, WTF? don't buy anything, its quite simple.

    agreed that Stern is pushing as hard and fast as they can as they see the cliff is coming.

    The problem people have with price is less about the increased price and more about the RATE of the increase combined with the decreased value of the product (i.e. QC, failing pfs, pealing decals, unfinished and increasingly buggy code).

    #446 2 years ago

    well yes... those statements are not in opposition.

    Small LCDs cost little.

    Smaller LCDs cost even less.

    Let's not forget that Stern went to cheaper quality screws to shave fractions of pennies per game. It all adds up and they continually push the limits of how much they can cut from a game.

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    #555 2 years ago
    Quoted from iceman44:

    Confirmed by JJ at Gex. Floor is being raised across the board, including dealer stock

    more reason to just say NO!

    #683 2 years ago
    Quoted from ifpapinball:

    I'm now working for a pinball company

    congrats! must be awesome!

    i know I am pumped to have the head of competitive pinball/ IFPA now working at a pinball company!

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