I think it's not the fact that they are increasing the price this one time but that they have been doing it steadily with no end in sight. A price increase with each new Title or every other Title adds up quick...like it already has.

I think the price increase on older unsold titles still sitting at distributors aggravates people more. How can you justify price increases on those.

Haters gotta hate.

I went on the Stern pinball arcade thread I do not care for ps game but thought I would look . What I find is people bitching about price code and modes WTF

Im just gonna leave this here....

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For those who don't like Stern or JJP prices you only have collectors to blame newly listed on Pinside a $5000 FH and a $12'700 TOAN

Those are out of production units that have made their reputation over the course of decades. There's a difference between something naturally appreciating vs. selling a new product for "collector" prices out of the gate.

Collectors are paying $300+ for rare Sega Saturn discs ...does that mean the market for disc based games is $300? Imagine Sony reacting to that by selling PS4 games for $300....would never happen. Collector markets should not have a price impact on new products.

While I generally agree, the problem with your argument is that pinball collectors (in your Sega Saturn disc example) have been offered new disc based games at $300 and gladly paid. Even worse, a segment of those collectors paid $900 for a new disc based game they'd NEVER seen played.

Well then why doesn't Chevy start selling new model Corvette Stingrays for $125-150K then? Restored 1960's Corvettes are going for that price.. so should GM match those prices since people are willing to pay that price for a Corvette?

These are not normal prices for these 2 pins (nice fh is 3-4k - nice totan 6500-7500).. these are restored older titles especially the totan which is loaded with upgrades and better than new.

So I doubt you would own it. If this one come out one day, it will be surely the most expensive nib ever and even in the secondary market ( maybe as espensive as an nib)....except if it is crappy.

So after hundreds of post, the conclusion is each one will choose to follow the price rising or not, depending on his means, his own expectation, his own desires, his own reflection. So nothing new and the world still goes on to turn around itself.

We're coming up on the 50th anniversary this January of Gottlieb switching from chromed solid steel playfield posts to cheap ass molded plastic ones. The nerve of those guys! And they probably increased the prices of the games at the same time. Too bad Pinside wasn't around yet to blow the whistle on this cash grab and TELL THEM NO. Imagine the outrage that went un-vented?

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King of Diamonds Jan 1967:

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Is it $1? If so, it's too much.

And the signature is a Pen name.

I just wanted to say a big Thank you for creating great new product like last year's Jurassic Park World arcade and the new Crusin Blast.
These are incredible earning games, just got Blast in but it's time for something to finally top Daytona in earnings.

Happy New Year.
Buddy

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Thanks for operating them!

Now if Mr. Ritchie would spend less time at Stern or Heighway or Spooky or wherever the heck he's designing Pulp Fiction, his next game for Raw is hitting the production line in 3 weeks.

Walking Dead Arcade. Gonna be huge!

Another Sega product or will this one be by Chicago Gaming?

Walking Dead Arcade?

That's a full in house Raw Thrills/Play Mechanix production.

Thanks.

You have denied Mark Ritchie's involvement with a Pulp Fiction pin so many times now that I'm actually starting to believe that there is truth to the rumor!

Which rumor? At this point the rumor he's not working on it is as strong as the rumor that he's working on it

Time to go back to NOT working for a pinball company . . . or am I?

Close enough to Jan 1 anyone know what the increase actually is on old titles?

How many of the 75% will cave???

Got news on the pricing.. Not nearly as bad as as we expected. I think people will find the price increase to be quite minimal

JJ

LOL. Won't stop some people from freaking out here in full effect. Check out what happens on Pinside when a dealer puts an ad up for a NIB (BM66 LE) pinball machine for $1 over MSRP. This is just the where the chaos begins to get even more dumb. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-batman-66-le#post-3518430

new Aerosmith pricing

Easy no

Staying with my NIB no. Will look at it after code updates. The Pro model looking to be the best playwise.

Since JJ can only talk in riddles he means $200 increase for the Pro.

$200 doesn't seem like much.. It's more about the total amount of increments in the last 2 years that hurts.

That's probably what they are hoping we think, each time they do it

A little over 14 pages to go through denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

Sorry I hate it too. $100 for Legacy Titles $200 on Aerosmith.. Last night it wasn't public yet so I had to be extra careful

The 5 steps of life on pinside

Just wait till pinball machines get DLC.

They kind of already have it. I'm sure some people would balk at how much I'm going to be putting into mods for my Metallica Pro. Let's just say it's a good thing I have every intention on keeping it for life.

yep, not so much increase...
lets admit for you in the USA guys, as i've read that you're not paying the STERN "fixed" price, but (for a pro model) lower & something like 5000-5200 USD !? right ?

here in west europe, its already (for GB) 6000 euros, than 6293 USD
i even cant talk for aussies & neighbours... :/

MSRP not street prices.

Exactly.

I paid $6200.00 (shipped) for my TWD Premium. This was in May of 2015. I was also quoted $4700.00 shipped for TWD pro.

So Aerosmith pro looks like it will be about $500.00 more than TWD was a little more than a year and half ago. And the premium is about $800.00 more than I paid for my TWD premium.

Still, all things considered, Aerosmith pro looks to be one of the better values in pinball. It's still going to be about $4k less than Dialed In LE for example.

Already happened with CGC charging to "unlock" the MMR Color dots that were in the rom already.

200 dollars? You call that an increase? Why that's just a poor man's 2,000 dollars.

I wonder how many of those that voted "No" got their checkbooks out when they saw Aerosmith today.

Not me, but I'm guessing a lot of the ridiculous themed DI people canceled those checks.

Stern still delivers great pinball for everybody.

I'm not an Aerosmith fan but that is one beautiful looking pinball machine and it appears to play nice and fast, good layout with a very cool toy in that clown and toy box, look forward to playing one. GB's, BM66 and now Aerosmith say what you want about Stern but they do deliver.

Not this guy.

F that noise.

Man, if people are really backing off on their convictions and going to order Aerosmith after they made such a noise here, that is some SERIOUS weak willed crap.

Being $4k less than Dialed In LE just tells you what a joke JJP's prices are. Let's not normalize $9k games!

Stern's Pro isn't a rip off. But as Rob points out it's a quick $500 increase too. $500 is money, whether you can afford it or not. That's not some little "cost of doing business" percentage. That's frog boiling 101.

Aerosmith doesn't appeal to me even slightly, no struggle here to not buy it. If you like it then great, enjoy! I think it's a cohesive package at least. But Pinside is already doing the goldfish memory thing on code, so don't come whining later about it please. Everyone should be eyes wide open by now.

I was in the market for a new pin about a month ago. I wanted a GB premium but all I kept hearing was problems after problems and the code was non existent. The price point of NIB premium games isn't really the problem as much as the quality. I just couldn't pull the trigger on a new stern with all the problems, so I bought a nice TZ and put some money into it. I don't regret my decision at all.

I'm done with stern. The ghostbusters issues were resolved and I have one and love it. But I am tired of price increases. Theme or not doesn't matter to me. And I'm sure my sitting out won't matter a bit to stern but I'm not paying these new prices.