Man, TOT into Guardians of the Galaxy?

Worst idea ever. Jesus.

Next thing you know, they'll be taking out the classic Country Jamboree Bears and replacing it with some shit 4th rate Winnie the Pooh ride through. Oh wait ... They already did that.

Disney is going down in my estimations. Daily.

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Small World is so crusty .. But it's iconic.

I can't wait till Disney rethemes it to WHAT COUNTRIES WILL IRONMAN SMASH UP TODAY instead. That'll be awesome. Not.

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First time I went there was 1982. I think pretty much all the rides from then have gone now. Except Matterhorn and some fantasyland rides.

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I've been to amusement parks all over the world, and ridden most of the great coasters in the world. I'm hard to impress.

IMO Tower of Terror is as good a ride as you'll get, anywhere.

And the best ride in a Disney park by miles.

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Me too man. Last time I was there, it was like $149 bucks each for a one day, two park pass.

Knotts Berry Farm is $39 on Internet sales. Magic Mountain is like $49.

Mind you, it didn't stop anyone going there. The place was packed on a Wednesday. So who can blame them for cranking in the cash, I guess.

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Cool ride. And cool vid. "I am moderately terrified right now!"

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All late 60s British rock music (and that's where Zep started) has its roots in American blues. Clapton, Beck, Page, Peter Green, the lot of them.

The American blues musicians would tour England and get big crowds and rave reviews, but back home they were pretty much ignored.

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I don't want to be a downer, but if you buy a Lonnie game expecting anything else than what is there now, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Name one game that's ever had "massive improvements" over the release code. I can't think of one.

Code updates will be minor fixes and twiddles (example, AVLE BW spinner triggering a hit to BW rather than having to loop the troublesome ramp) ... but no way there will be added "horde" or Metallica Crank it ups or anything like that.

I bought KISS after the last code update, I fully expect it to be like it is now forever. I really enjoy the game.

I am in the market for an Aerosmith Pro, I really enjoyed it "as it is" when I played it at Texas. However I won't pay $9700 NZD for one, so I will wait for a used one for cheaper. As I did with my TWD, KISS, and GOT pro.

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Most of those comments were made by people who had never seen one in the flesh, let alone played it.

Upper playfield is fine. I played the Premium, it was sweet.

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I would concur with that. And when you live outside the USA, the price difference is even more. It's $3000 difference here.

Some games, you'd justify it (like AC/DC premium over the pro)

But on others, the pro becomes the way to go.

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Read this, some strategy discussed and also the ruleset.

http://tiltforums.com/t/aerosmith-rulesheet/2499

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It's Lonnies Greatest Hits.

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Of course it is. Why not have the best of everything?

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Check your adjustments too .. there is usually a shaker adjustment, set it to "max" if it isn't already.

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People love a new toy, man ...

Shall we start a sweepstakes on when the "where's the AS Code?" thread will start?

I'll kick it off ... 60 days from now. Let's say 25th June. Actually I think that is a bit too long, now I think about it. But I'll stick with that!

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Before the end of the year??

More like the end of the month!!

I like KISS, similar to Transformers in a lot of ways, except with tighter shots.

KISS maybe seems a little tougher than AS gameplay wise in my opinion. I found all the shots pretty easy on AS vs very tight left orbit and right ramp on KISS. Consistently hitting Starchild area can be a mission on KISS, whereas I have no problem hitting the lock lane on AS.

Funnily enough, if/when I do get an Aerosmith, it'll sit right next to KISS Pro and Transformers LE, so you'll have 3 pins in a row with basically the same rulesets. The Ropp Row! Hahaha

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I'm a rock/metal guy, and I played in the NZ KISS tribute band, so I'm down with the KISS.

But after a day playing Aerosmith Pro at Pinmasters, everyone was humming Rats in the Cellar, I can tell you that.

Live Bootleg is a great AS album. You can keep the 90s stuff though. I'm so happy they went the musical direction they did with AS. It could have been awwwwful.

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It will be pretty much way it is now for ever. You may see some bug fixes and minor stuff, but what you see is what you get.

As long as you purchase with this in mind, you won't get disappointed.

If you are buying this, and expecting it to morph into TSPP or WOZ, you're just setting yourself up for tears.

It is what it is.

You've said 1,000 times you love WOZ and Hobbit and other Keith Johnson rulesets .. this game is not one of those games.

Seriously, go seek an Aerosmith out and play it for a while before you pay $5200 bucks for one.

Same advice I'd give anyone before purchasing any game. Go play it for a while, see if you like it.

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I like it.

But as I said, it is the opposite of what Panzer likes.

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How about a Firepower?

How about a Paragon?

Great pins don't have to be new ones.

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Yeah I can imagine that. You're all amped from playing an amazing 25 minute game, you've smashed all the modes, destroyed all the multiballs and hit Jackie in the nuts 362 times.

You're amped! The adrenaline is flowing! Whooooopa!

"Tinkle tinkle tinkle tinkle tinkle" goes the sound of the very slow double picked guitar intro.

"Ooooffffff" is the sound you make as you slowly deflate....

Cool song ... but I don't think it's Wizard Mode material. Just my opinion ....

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The issue is that people expected the cities to do something gameplay wise ... and they don't. All they do is change the callouts to "personalise" the game for the player.

Gomez confirmed at TPF this is what the cities were always meant to do. Nothing more, nothing less.

If Stern had announced that FROM DAY ONE, instead of saying "stay tuned" every 5 minutes, then you wouldn't have people freaking out. They dug their own hole, to a large extent, by lack of communication.

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I said that was what the cities were for on day one. You can hear the callouts change. "hello Deeeeetroit!!"

Some people assumed that the cities were something else.

I couldn't see how you could make the cities something else. There are like 8 songs (?) and 6 cities (?). If every song mode was changed by the city, that would be 48 different modes to complete the game. Seeing how most players can't even complete two songs on factory settings, having 48 modes to work through didn't make any sense. Plus, you'd have to have coding for 48 scenarios. Seeing as they can't finish the code for 8 scenarios, why would they set themselves up to code 48?

Gomez was VERY animated in the discussion of cities at his TPF chat. He went out of his way to say that the cities were only ever meant to change the callouts, and "the internet" had decided they were supposed to be something else. There's probably footage of it on YouTube, check it out.

So yes, I totally believe him for the reasons stated above.

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I don't think it is. I think the cities are how they were designed to be.

Anyway, that's for the KISS thread.

Back to KISS PART TWO errrr Aerosmith.

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Don't know if that's a bug or not. You can only change the song of you have completed x amount of it. Seems to be pretty consistant across all songs, so I would think it is by design.

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My guestimate would be if you have completed half the mode (or more), then drain, you can choose a new song. Of course, if you do choose a new song, you don't complete the current song and you don't get any progress towards the 2x playfield scoring etc etc.

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The Making of Aerosmith ...

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They didn't. Except for the name. The Crank it up in AS is nothing like CIU in Metallica.

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I've had that happen on every Stern spike game I have played.

GOT
GB
KISS

Happens occasionally on all of them. Usually when you're having a super awesome game too.

Stern told us that the fault is in the flipper node board ... when the voltage drops too much below 48v it will reset. Similar to the WPC issue.

One GB Pro here (in nz) and one GOT LE have already had new power supplies fitted to correct the issue. Anything under (from memory) 47.8v will reset the game.

Stern are aware of the issue and said they will modify the node boards. However I'm not sure if/when that has been done.

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Listening to some Pinsiders, it seems that actually playing the pin comes a distant last to pimping it up and glueing all sorts of accoutrements all over the playfield.

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http://tiltforums.com/t/aerosmith-rulesheet/2499

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I went today and helped a operator set up their SW Pro and AS Pro today. I was there the other day, and they both played like crap so I offered to go fix them.

Sorted them out ... AS Pro went up to 7 degrees, levelled it properly, adjusted the scoop kickout power to 25, and the difference was night and day. Played smooth as butter.

I whacked up a quick 240,000,000 to test it out.

My AS Pro arrives here end of September.

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Welcome aboard, Zach Sharpe!

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Fwiw ... my personal experience:

Stern Whitestar: owned dozens of them. Never had a reset.

Stern SAM: owned lots of them. Never had a reset.

Stern SPIKE: own GOT pro,
KISS Pro, As pro, Bm66 premium, and had a GB pro at my house for a month.

Kiss: occasional resets. Maybe 3-4 ever

AS pro: unboxed last week. Crashed once.

Bm66: no crashes yet

GOT pro: crashes occasionally, inevitably when I am about to start Iron Throne. Lol

GB Pro: started crashing every few days, in two weeks it was crashing every game when you hit the flippers, like an old 1990s BW with bad bridge rectifiers. Local agent talked to Stern for an hour and they said the flipper node board has a watchdog in it that resets if the voltage falls too low ... same as a WPC CPU does (that's why WPCs crash)
They sent a new power supply and it hasn't missed a beat since.

That's where the reset issues are.

I was talking to the local agents tech, and he was saying he thinks the power supplies have a pot in them to bump the 48v a little ... which would fix the problem. I haven't seen him since then, so I don't know if they do or not, but if they did bump up to say 48.5v that'd sort the problem for sure.

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It’s $4k ... don’t be too fussy, go buy it, tidy it up, play the crap out of it, and in a year it’ll still be worth $4k.

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Lord of the Thighs

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