Played my friends tonight after playing a bunch of times in TX last weekend. This is a really fun game.

I think I want one.

How is the gameplay different with no post between the pops?

Background - I sold addc Prem. It was a good game. I had it for almost 2 years and had played it enough and it was time for a change. Prices went crazy also on acdc also?! I was looking strongly at MET as the next pin. One thing is though I don't really like MET the Band and neither does my wife. I have one Borg game, IM, which is pretty much bolted to the floor but man is it hard! One more game! I thought AS looked interesting. I like Aerosmith and if they are on the radio or XM I don't change it, but go to band? Not really. Played it at TXPF and started to like it more and more. I went two nights ago and played AS at a friend's house again also. Really love the animations also.

To me AS is better than Kiss. I really like Kiss the pin actually, but just could not deal with Kiss the band long term. I DO NOT think that AS is necessarily better then MET as an all round player, BUT it is more fun for me. When I told my wife I was looking at getting MET she cringed. When I told her I may get AS she was like "ok, I like Aerosmith." Like for Borg games my wife likes IM as do I, but if I brought in MET or TWD she or would be like "I hate them!"

So to sum it up for me - Aerosmith pin is better then Kiss, a little short of MET overall, but more tolerable, like IM, for folks across the board than other great Borg games like TWD and MET and more fun to play than all the above titles and adds great LCD screen animations into the mix.

Just talking it through over a couple hours of beers. Or maybe a few.

Ordered a pro today and getting it next week.

Thanks! I just want to play it over and over. In Borg I trust.

Well I played yours on Thursday night and.....you know.

OH and also no need to have my friend stop by your house to play before he buys. He also ordered a Pro also. Boom!

I am also going on the roll that Borg has had with Pro models so far - Kiss, TWD, MET, Xmen, Tron, Avatar, IM?! Heck I like BBH, IJ, and AP also! Just awesome.

Oh and the Dirty Donnie art! AS May better than Met even. MET is fantastic also!

"Fun" seems to be mentioned a lot with AS and I agree. AS could be the most fun Borg game.

Like I love my IM, but I would not call it fun to play. I would say IM is intense and challenging and it pisses me off sometimes, but I can't walk away from it. Other Borg games are like that. AS is different for some reason.

I would agree with you accept I am not hearing the "I love Aerosmith and they remind me of my youth so I want to love this game and have to buy this pin!" to go along with it. I really don't know anyone who loves AS so much they are buying the game not matter what. Folks are playing it and liking it and giving it a buy. The way a pinball should be. I also am not sure we are going to see the usual "I just bought AS and I am not sure if I like it myself, but if anyone criticizes it I will cut them!", like we see on other games. I am just not getting that vibe. Maybe to early to tell.

The game is fun and folks are buying it even though they don't love the band. I know a group of folks who don't like Metallica the band but bought the pin anyway because it is solid and like the band better because of it and I think AS will be like that. Will it be as good as MET? Uh not sure of that, but I bet AS will fall along the lines of other good Borg games. I would say around IM level or so.

We will see.

Really?! I hope you are right. I love IM for the one more game factor and think if AS is better then bonus for me! I think it will be popular with all types of players. The box lock is just so cool. Played Pro and Prem at TPF. I liked the Prem a little better but wanted to cut back on the cost, so I am "settling" and picking up my Pro for myself next week.

Borg makes fun Pros. He makes well done Premiums and LE's also.

Tomorrow is the day I pick my Pro up! Cant wait!

I sold my acdc and AS is the surprise replacement after I played it a lot at TPF. So what are you thinking?

Well at least we can all agree that TOM and WOZ are both great games that I personally have no desire to play anytime soon and will never own.

Bring on AS!

Picked up my Pro today and after a first group of plays it reminds me of a lighter, more fun Borg game. I have IM and like Borg games, but I generally battle them when I play. I get oissed at them sometimes for sure. AS is not an easy game, but I don't feel like I am in a fist fight like TWD or IM, so that is what I mean by more fun. AS doesn't piss me off. The humor could have something to do with it also. The animations are edgy but funny enough where the humor does not go to far, as in to much humor. The Jester is evil, but not really and not annoying at all. I like how he interacts with you throughout the game. Seems like Sparky that talks more. I like him.

The shots feel good on the ramps and he ball lock is great. Everyone loves the lock! Like you feel like you get rewarded seeing the ball do a trick when you lock instead of the pin just saying - "Ball 2 locked". The game plays fast. Like really fast. Learning strategies now so can't go into scoring and strategy.

The art is quite amazing and AS could have the best art of any pin ever made. Like MeT and GB are really good, some older games like Fathom are sick, but AS is better. IMHO. Once you really look at the game up close all the little details come out. Like on the translite there is a Shogun Warriors Godzilla I had as a kid with his fire tounge stuck out. Cool! The LCD is absolutely great. The animations get better as you get deeper in the game. I will not miss buying $400 color DMDs. This LCD is a lot better than a color dmd also. The music is good Pin playing music. I am 45 and had the red GH album like everyone did growing up and like Permanent Vaction and Pump and all the Alicia Silverstone videos. This pin brings me back a little. Oh and wifes seem to really like Steven Tyler and Aerosmith. The dude was on American Idol?!

Really the game just plays fun. I know I keep going back to this, but that what this pin is to me. I am liking fun pins more and more over hard or challenging and deep rules lately. And this game works for that.

Just my two cents. Give it a shot. I went into The Texas Pinfest with a ho hum attitude about AS and wanted to play the other newer games, but AS won me over. So far so good.

Oh also no issues out of the box, but I will keep an eye out. Sorry no drama. Thank goodness!

Had a pinhead friend come over and get to play AS for the first time tonight. He said AS is the most fun he has had with a pin in a long time and he is lining up getting one.

Play this game folks. It is ok to like it.

Dude! It is the most fun I have had on a pin from the beginning ever. Acdc, IM, LOTR all I was not sure how good they were for a little while. AS is just plain fun. Funny as heck. Look at all the details - best art ever.

I will tell you what - I will give GB one more very good shot since I just don't like it as of now. I hope it will turn for me because I want to like it. AS was easy and quick. Maybe good things will come in time with GB.

Clearcoat is nice. I like how the toybox shuts with a nice rubber pounding thud. It shuts like it is solid and heavy and not cheap plastic. It may be early, but I feel like Stern tried harder to make sure things go right with this pin. Hope I am right.

It should be a good earner. Let us know how it does.

AS would look awesome next to your Kiss, MET and GnR. Wow!!

Me to. Sold my ACDC Prem and got AS Pro and have no regrets at all. I had Acdc for a year and a half and enjoyed it but it was time with the bump in price to them in the past 6 months. Acdc was good but I had the same type of game on it again and again. AS is more fun to me. $2500 is in my pocket for the next game.

I purposely don't dig into rules and strategies on day one. I like to have the basics and then slowly learn rules and strategies over time. Just me.

I do know that Crank it Up will give you more time on the modes if you hit the scoop while it is lit.

The upper playfield is better, but not $1800 better for myself, but it was not that far off at all. If you want to budget a little more then I say go for it.

Here are some of the toys that Donny put on the game artwise. Hugo Man with 1000 faces is on a plastic next to the toy box and my toy I had growing up - a Shogun Warriors Godzilla which is on the right side of the translite.

I never knew Hugo, but a pinhead friend pointed him out to me. Hugo is creepy man! Creepy!

After AS I am a bigger Donnie fan know for sure.

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You have a pretty fun collection. I think AS will fit in with what you have already.

ACDC Prem. Really liked it and had it for a while. Now, to be honest, I can't remember what I liked about it??

Well how about this angle - anyone else play your pins besides you? AS is super approachable by pretty much everyone. Wifes and kids like it also. I am going to play my AS again so...

Are you high? Maybe you should be.

Or is in dire need of a blow job or something? What is up?

Well that sucks. Every game is not for everyone. Oh well.

Well yeah. There is so much variety in pinball it is off the hook!

We can all agree that there is something for everyone.

So what things do you look for? What games are your favorites? List please.

My ST had dimples all over. AS had some now. No big deal. Play it and it will smooth out.

I dare you. Do it!

Don't feel bad about having fun playing a pinball machine.

You can still play my AS anytime in the mean time.

I think the Prem/LE is better but I got the Pro with my selling acdc money just so I could suprise my wife when she asked me "So how much more is AS over what you sold ACDC for?"

Ha! I win! Oh wait did I really win?

My buddy put a shaker in his Pro and told me not to spend the money on one. All I heard so far.

Yes. Seems like Jacky gets way to dark before the start of MB.

I believe it is - Standard adjustments, Feature adjustments, #4 toy box Div power. Mine is set at 200

Looks like an interesting product for sure. Like to get a photo or video of that on AS. Anyone?

Saw a video on YouTube. Like to see lights during play.

I mean isn't it smart to buy from a dist that has the pin in stock? Just sayin

I own AS and really like Kiss and always have. The way I see it, it seems like Kiss owners are a little annoyed because AS feels similar to Kiss and they wonder why Stern can't just put a little more time on Kiss code in between the time they come out with a new similar game? I can see that, but Borg is Borg and Stern is Stern I guess?

I like AS because it shoots like Kiss. AS just worked out better for me, but I really hope Kiss gets the update it deserves. I dig both games and hope Kiss owners don't feel this is a AS vs Kiss thing at all. It is not for me at all. I dig them both.

Dude not cool! You are a disgrace to fellow Kiss owners! Just embarrassing. Stop!

Left orbit is harder for me.

And I really like color DMD's, but will not miss paying $420 for each one on new Sterns for sure.

It will fit in great with the games you have in your collection.

AS is just fun. Candy on a stick.

Congrats!

A pinhead friend asked if his Newbie Buddy could come over and play my AS to see if it should be his first pin. He came buy today and put his order in for AS!

It is fun hooking newbies!

Walk This Way, ramps all day!

Oh boy! Let me grab a frosty beverage and watch!

Yes $5200 is the floor.

I will buy the next round.

Love your videos through the years. Thanks for putting it up!

Could you show us a pic please?

The jacky head shot is kind of a danger shot SDTM for me.

No, but when Steven Tyler does the chuckle from the beginning of Love in the Elevator at the start of Elevator Multiball it is pretty funny. When Jacky announces "Elevator Multiball!", in his nerd voice that is pretty funny also.

Need to hit the shot smooth into the lane for a clean lock. It is actually a pretty tight satisfying shot. I would rather not hit the ball in the pops to go for a lock and have the magnet whip the ball SDTM for a drain, but yes I do get locks that way.

Toy box lock power to the kicker can be adjusted for a better shot to the toy box. It seems that can be a complaint from the show and location players, but easily fixed to get 90%+ going in. Some folks think when the ball hits Jacky in the head the toy box is not working either. Not true.

Still getting used to the game, but I got a super jackpot the other night and on the animations it had the same type of doll as the movie 9 come out and rapid fire punch Jakey 100 times and knock him out?! Pretty funny.

Owning AS makes me want to get MET also.

Let's see how long it takes for "you know who" to criticize or give a negative comment or opinion on AS. Go!

We can actually kill the witch king in LOTR.

I don't think it is an easy game. Borg does not let players off easy. I do think AS has a fun factor though so if you have a quick game you don't get pissed or annoyed, you just hit start again and learn to play better.

You could put Elevator MB on easy. That is not easy for me to keep shooting both loops to relight the elevator lock. Or add time to the ball save. Or just play better.

I sold my ACDC Prem and got AS and have no regrets. A friend who sold his and picked up AS also deacribed Acdc as great, but so serious! He said AS is just fun. I agree with those statements.

I kind of respect games for what they are as pinball games. What does that mean? Like I would not walk around and say AS is better than ACDC or say MET because they are well designed and coded games. For me right now AS is better, so I own one and enjoy playing it.

I had ACDC for a year and a half and sold it a few months ago and will probably get a MET next. AS made me want a MET really. All really good games. I don't know what it is, but other great games I bought like ACDC, IM, LOTR etc took a little while for me to like, but AS felt great from the first time I pressed start. Had some AS owner friends say that also. That is what I like about AS folks had so so expectations with it and bought after they played. The way pinball or any product should be.

I just think we are lucky to have so many great games to pick from and just when we think we will never get a certain game ACDC gets rerun. I am really starting to get really sick of the which is better - MET or MMr or Hobbit or AS stuff.

Kind of like Kiss. AS is more fun and better though.

Sooooo your Pro that turned into a premium? How did that all work out?

Well this is getting confusing beacuse after owning AS I was thinking about selling IM to get MET.

Yup. You are on to something.

A lot of folks already have a fixed set of guidelines of what they like when they go play a pin and then make a quick judgement about it instead of looking at the pin for what it is. I like games that are not as deep, but I wouldnt say that TSPP, Woz or TZ are bad games because if it. They are all fun to play and I think I am lucky to have friends who own the games, so I can play them. Would I own them? Likely not, but I appreciate them as amazing players for sure. But who knows? I never thouhgt I would get LOTR and well here it is.

What I really hate about all this is folks who like that certain type of game, Deep or Shallow, Flow or Stop and go, mode or Journey pin, etc, make harsh judgments and statements about the games they dont like on Pinside or elsewhere and it annoys the folks who like and own that game. The thing is though, a lot of time it is not the game itself they dont like, but the game does not fall into the style of pin they enjoy playing.

It is like for cars, if you are a sports car lover and you walk around sahing Jeeps are turds and a Jeep lover says that your sports car cant do crap off road? Why bother bother comapring? Why bother making negative statements about this stuff if each are so different?

I think whoever judges pins based on what they are will enjoy playing pinball more. I step up to my LOTR and hit start and know that I will taken on a journey and when I play my IM it will be a short fist fight that I will probably lose. Comparing the two is silly. Playing the two is awesome!

I am glad you get what AS is and not just say that is not deep like WOZ so AS sucks. You get it!

Dude thanks for the help and the non negatively! Hope your code drops really soon!

What if player one locks 5 balls The box and player 2 starts 3 ball multiball?

Hmm. Like the older BW games of steal a ball lock. How neat is that!

This is a ok place to go for rules -

http://tiltforums.com/t/aerosmith-rulesheet/2499/13

You dont even like AS, so your opinion on pins aint worth shit to me anyway. Bwahhaha!

Jacky's nerdy announcement for Elevator Multiball = hilarious!

I think there is an adjustment for the trough eject power. Thought I saw it?

Just talked with somebody today who is looking for his first NIB. He has it down to AS or MET. Met is just great and proven and AS is the fresh title with the LCD and the toy box. I dont want to start a back and forth bash fest, but I think it is a toss up between the two with no losers. Now that I have AS I would like MET right next to it in my house, so yeah!

I said he can come to my house to play my AS one more time and can see if one of my MET buddies can let him try at their house, so he can decide. It is like a date with two awesome girls with big.......personalities to decide on one. How awesome is that!

Well with AS, ACDC rerun and SW this could be one great year for Stern and pinball players.

The pro is not a bad dog. It is a less expensive, great looking dog that does one less trick.

Sold Acdc and got AS and no regrets. May get MET down down the line soon. Been leaning more Borg lately over Ritchie.

If you add AS to your ACDC and MET that is one heck of a line up. So do it!

Yeah after letting my Acdc go and getting the surprise out of nowhere pin AS after playing it at TPF, I think I would like to get MET, get a ACDC back and would consider trading out my AS Pro for an AS Prem or LE???!!

Damn! It is getting complicated.

My life is hard. I was planning on volunteering to pick up Dirty Donnie at the airport Thursday and bring him to SFGE, but my wife just told me she is out of town and I need to stay home with the kids that night.

I still plan on partying with him though.

I am going to have SW and AS side by side.

AS was an ok theme for me that I was not to excited about. I then played it in TX, enjoyed it and bought one.

SW is a top theme for me and bought a preorder and I am hoping the game will be great.

Quite different purchases for sure. I think AS is the best way to go about it really.

Stern stole some of their business with the scoop. Bastards!

Edit -Crank it up, record scoop that is.

Yes. Cliffy for the lock shot also.

Yes. I agree.

My friends wife played AS on the first day of SFGE at the Marco display and arranged to buy the demo take it home for him after the show.

What a gal!

Nice collection! Congrats!

Yeah to me it AS is kind of a tough Borg game that does not take itself so serious and that makes it fun.

Like TWD, IM and MET are fun for me to play, but they are all soooooo intense. AS feels a lot more relaxing while playing than those others even if I have a bad game. My IM has me on edge.

I really think mixing up AS with IM, TWD, or MET is a good Borg balance. He is a great designer!

MET plays better, but AS is more fun.

On Pinside I seriously doubt some folks here have much fun playing pinball or doing much of anything looking at their online personas, but heck yeah if a game isnt fun it is bye bye for me!

Fun is what pinball is all about for me!

Congrats! AS is a fun game. Wasn't into AS on the release, played it, played again, one more time and bought one and have no regrets.

I am saying screw it and getting a SW. My friends and I will play the crap out of it so no worries on my end.

To be fair and open I do not think you ever owned AS as your own when you say "I did not have AS long". Just to be clear. Or maybe you did own one?

I believe you help someone who has a route though and that is awesome. I feel you certainly know the ins and outs of a lot of games, rulewise and repairwise and are very helpful with information about any of them and that is cool of you. So definitely thank you for all your info and please keep it up.

I think that Met turned out to be one of the greats and AS is suprisingly better and more fun than anyone thought. I like AS better, but may lean more Met today to advise anyone on the fence because Stern will shut down MET by the end of the year and AS will be around for a while. Go Borg!

I put my Elevator MB on easy. I know. I know. Having too much fun with it to not see it more often with hitting those damn loops. FU Left loop! I always announce Elevator MB with Jacky doing his nerdy annoying voice.

Yup

Yes Elevator MB set on easy is too easy, but normal settings are too hard.

My vote is for more love than less love on my game.

Ha. The risk reward is.....well risk reward. 5 balls draining hurts.

One more game!

Jacky is kind of an evil, mocking toy playing off of "Toys In The Attic".

He is awesome. His toybox to start MB is the bomb.

It takes a while to start hitting shots on AS, but when you do........

If you are not a hyper competitive player who beats themselves up after each bad game, wants to just have
fun and likes the Elevator MB girl then put Elevator MB on easy in the settings. You have to hit a lot less loops which can be a B and you just have more fun playing.

Try it and once you are sick of the billion scoring you will consistently get them put EMB back to normal. Kidding!

Yeah. I think AS looks and plays kind of comical, light and fun, but it is still a Borg game for sure.

I think Jacky is great! He is supposed to be mocking and annoying. I think he does a lot better job of it than Sparky on MET.

What mode has a sock puppet come out and beat the crap out of Jacky and knock him out on the LCD? Love that one!

No wonder I don't remember where I saw it because I don't finish it very often, but love it when I do.

Don't hate him because you suck at pinball!