I'm not a big Aerosmith fan but with Lyman, Borg, and Dirty Donnie rumored to be at the helm I think it could surprise a lot of people and turn out awesome! Hopefully they follow the formula with Metallica and basically create an original theme with an Aerosmith soundtrack vs. Designing the theme around the band itself. I'm imagine 70s themed classic artwork and maybe they would even throw in the Sparky character and make it a sequel of sorts.

I think people may be making the mistake of under estimating this game. I remember when Metallica was a rumor and people were looking past it and thinking it would be another geriatric band theme with photoshopped art and looking forward to Star Trek which was supposed to blow everyone away with its technology and Steve Ritchie design. It's a similar year with SR supposedly designing Star Wars. Aerosmith has the same exact team as Metallica. It wouldn't surprise me if this game was basically a sequel to Metallica and feautured similar art and characters including Sparky. It would basically be like Scared Stiff in relation to Party Monsters. The band is secondary and serves as the soundtrack for the game just as Metallica did on their game. Aerosmith also has the advantage of having an LCD display. With all this being said I could be totally wrong and it could just be a lame geriatric band pin but I think after the success of Metallica Stern hopefully learned a thing or two and will stick to that formula.

If I had a dollar for everyone that's mentioned that they bought Metallica despite not liking the band I'd probably be at least a hundred aire by now! I think the same thing will apply to Aerosmith. When people see great artwork, a feature packed playfield and stellar rules they will be willing to overlook not liking the band and buy one.

If It is Aerosmith I would use Pinball browser and put in a mix of music including early Aerosmith, Tom Petty, and some newer bands like Tame Impala and War on Drugs. I really think the game itself could be a winner being it is Borg/Lyman/Dirty Donny!

I'm not a big Aerosmith fan but with Stern's A team working on it I certainly wouldn't count it out. I have a feeling it will surprise a lot of people. I was planning to pick up a GB but with all the delays and issues I may just hold off and wait and see what Aerosmith looks like before making a decision either way.

Lol. If it looks like that it's a pass even if the software and layout is awesome. Hoping with DD on art it is more similar to PBR Can Crusher or Metallica with the band being a secondary element on the pin and more inspired by 70s style artwork.

$8k LE is out of the question for me but a $5k Pro with color LCD could be tempting if done right. The game could end up being a sequel to Metallica. Wouldn't be surprised if it feautured a return of Sparky.

Because the next pin is Batman VE 66' edition.

WOF got away with not using a mandatory Italian bottom and I think it made it a much more exciting game because of the extra nudging possibilities. I'm surprised they haven't tried doing that again.

As for Aerosmith I actually think the art and the layout on the Pro looks fantastic!-I actually enjoy the KISS layout so I don't mind seeing it improved and recycled. The biggest reason to hold off on buying this game though is code. If it doesn't have Lyman or Dwight on lead software what are the chances that it's actually going to be any good.

Game of Thrones and Walking Dead aren't modern enough for you

Does anyone know if the Toy chest has a magnet to assist with catching the ball (similar to the backboard in NBA) or does it just get launched in there and rely on gravity to keep it in? I know that in the games that do rely on magnets that those magnets usually get mangled really quick due to how hard the ball hits them.

I'm honestly way more impressed with TWD with ColorDMD than I am with Aerosmith's or BM66s LCD.. I like the size but the content and implementation is lacking. Hobbit or WOZ is way more impressive. I do agree that the Pro is a pretty good value though.

Agreed! Dots when done right are really an art form. I would much prefer a colorDMD for games like TWD or GB than an LCD showing flash animations, or worse yet actual movie or show clips. If they would utilize the full size of the ColorDMD in the speaker panel that would really be perfect!

Honestly, WOF is probably better. At least it has a truly original layout, inline drops, and a deep Keith Johnson ruleset. Aerosmith is better than anticipated but just doesn't bring anything new or exciting to the table. It is pretty though!

The game is missing some key callouts and lacks polish in the software but as for the rules themselves and what's missing is stuff that 98% of the people that play the game aren't going to be able to see anyway. I mean who's actually even completed 4 puzzles and played through all 7 bonus wheel modes in a single game. I'm an above average player and really haven't come close. The game is brutal! I think it's the toughest DMD era pin out there at least how mine is setup. The rules that are there are fantastic! The bonus round modes are all unique and fit the game well. You can also stack nearly everything together. If you can get a mode like "Ramp Rampage" stacked with both Trip and Wheel multiball and then open up the right ramp and hit your 2X and 4X shots just right to correspond with the big jackpots you can really blow up your score quick! This game was risk/reward before games like ACDC came along and made it cool. And I love the lower playfield layout and how it forces you to play on your toes and also encourages nudging at just the right times to save the ball. It's a lot of fun and completely different than any other DMD game which is refreshing when every other game seems to be a copycat of some other previous game. Yeah, the voices aren't my favorite but I don't find them that distracting and they fit the theme well. I don't know if any of the missing callouts or voices could possibly be improved or added via "Pinball Browser" but it would be cool if they could. Overall though it's still a top 10 Stern game for me and I never really get tired of playing it due to the uniqueness and challenge unlike a lot of other recent Stern games which haven't held my attention over the long term. I know the game isn't for everyone, but consider me one of its biggest fans!

I've learned to bite my tongue on criticizing any pin that Lyman is involved with. When TWD came out I was one of the haters. I didn't like how much time the ball spent in the pops. The TWD I played on route didn't register 1/2 the hits to the prison and would throw the ball down the middle almost every time. It was just brutal and the rules were terrible out of the gate. I remember a time when "Bicycle Girl" was the best way to accumulate points. I also thought that the voice work was a huge disappointment and the game lacked any connection to the show.

Fast forward to now and it's my favorite Stern pin. Yes, BM66 is a disappointment as it sits and has a lot to overcome (clunky turn table) in order to be considered a good game. But with Lyman working on it I wouldn't count it out. I have a feeling in a year or two it will be a very solid game and will be more highly regarded than Aerosmith. People really just need to give this game some time before giving up on it.

Keeper for life. Lol... This is Derek we're talking about. Great guy but I'd put the over/under at 3 months or whenever Star Wars comes out and becomes the next new best pin ever!